Question for Everyone

MollieMae01 · Moderator

Question for Everyone

jawlaw · Moderator

you know what, mollie. you are right. we should not be worrying about them at all or wasting our time with this childish stuff. however, when you go on tp to read, do you see posts accusing you of things that you did not do? they use my name and blame me for everything that happens. also, have you had your account broken into because of these people? of course, i agree that i myself (can't say what others need to do) needs to get on with my life and forget about those losers which i intend to do, so i guess what i am saying is that i agree with what you said (other than your profanity). Everyone has things that offend them...our childishness offends you. Your profanity offends me. However, you have the right to do that if you want to. I would never try to censor what you wanted to say (and I don't believe Ansy would either) unless, of course you were breaking the forum rules.. And by the way...other members do use profanity and I really dont get offended with that. However the "gd" thing REALLY offends me!!! No hard feelings, I hope between you and I...

Now with all that said, I am very embarrassed that we did not give up our rantings over tp to listen to you talk about Eli. We should have been here for you and I apologize!!! That is what we are suppose to be here for and I let that get in the way of what we are suppose to be here for and I apologize for that.

-- Edited by jawlaw at 10:53, 2005-03-22

MollieMae01 · Moderator

I'm really sorry to everyone if I seem like I'm mad at them or if I seems like I was just being a b*tch in the above post. I just wanted everyone to know how I feel about all the childishness that's going on. Or what I think is childish, anyway. I'm just so sick of the tp bashing and all and I would like it if everyone would just let it go. Jawlaw is really the only one being picked on over there and jessica and GinaH are about the only ones that really need to go there to talk, because they're still members. I know that I've said some things about tp that I probably shouldn't have said, like in the first few posts I ever made. But can't we all just let it go and get along?? I feel really bad for all of us that are still members over at tp for having to listen to all this garbage and bashing between the sites. It really is all stupid. I know I said some profanity that offended some ppl in my original post and I went in and deleted it because I don't want to offend anyone. I just wanted to let everyone know how they sound to others. I know I've done it too, so I fully take blame for it, but looking back on it, it really was stupid and I'm sorry for it. So why don't we get to chatting about things that really matter?? Like the shootings at the school in Minnesota?? or the Terri Schiavo case?? Think about what those ppl are going through, instead of what's going on here. Thanks for listening to what I have to say.

colliemom · Puppy Post'er (I'm gonna be one BAD dog someday!)

Mollie,

I agree with you..Enough is enough...I was treated badly there but here is a whole new group and everyone seems to be friendly and helpful....I am old enough to have several grandkids so I guess I am old enough to ignore the stupidity....

Please don't leave....

Paige · ~Grand Champion~ Gold Medal Poster!

I agree that it is annoying sometimes. But I have to admit that I like reading those post. I sometimes may not apply because I have not been treated like some of the others were on TP. I guess I really don't know what to say.

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

I agree with you guys for the most part but understand that it is not always really us doing any of the chat stuff. Last night someone was pretending to be oasis and it was not me or jawlaw. I openly admit when I do something and last night and the night before I did in fact participate. But I know for a fact something very sneeky is going on and many of us are being set up. Jaw has freely admited when she has gone into their chat and when she has gone to the forum but she is blamed for every single negative thing that goes on with tp. there are even rumors that jaw and I are one in the same! How stupid is that? I am a firm believer in don't start nothing and there will be nothing. What cricket has been doing is wrong. I had to call my isp last night and have my main ip address changed because someone was logging into my id at the furum and at tp. like an idiot I used the same pw to both forums not thinking anyone would stoop that low. But I run a family rights group and I know that group owners can in fact access your pw because if you lose or forget thme they are the only ones who can get them.

There is no good reason for anyone to have done to us what has been done and I for one take issue with being accused when I am doing nothing or being set up. Yes I can forgive and forget yes I can put it in the past but the logging on under my screenname is too much! The constant blaming of one individual for everything is just way out there. It is not inconcievable they will have problems with others and it not be jawlaw posting or chatting. Seems to me they make many new people frog hopping mad at the way they are treated. What do they expect new people to say when they are judged, picked on and told they can't talk about a topic because they "know nothing" about anything. I would not go back there if they paid me to so long as cricket is a moderator. As in my opinion she is unfair and judgmental. I felt like I was being worked over by the gestapo. It is like the moderator mafia over there. the only one I have never seen say poop is Pearl. I joined under frnk_stevens to prove a point and to see for myself if the claims from jawlaw were true. And sure enough they were. jawlaw was blaimed for all of it when it was clearly me posting under and ip in mexico.

jawlaw may have caused some mischief but she certainly is not responsable for all they claim as we see from the last two days. I get real itchy when I see such an unfair judgment being passed but I get that way about injustice period. Atomicdog was a MAN! I talked to atomic on the phone this after noon. Luckily he was able to get my email addy and email me. He had the website link to the dogs which has my addy on it. After the way he was treated he wants no part of these forums and I can't say I blame him. He will however be working with me to take Bandit. I am so glad that blindsiding the innocent did not ultimatly cost a dog a forever home. Even scout said in chat the night i was banned that a mistake may have been made. But cricket seems to feel that they do not make mistakes. Minniyar emailed me privatly and at least she can see some kind of reason.

Admin has recieved many complaints and replies to none of them. The mods sit back and watch threads started purposly to pick a fight and simply do nothing. They pick sides of those that kiss up and attack those who stand firm and defend themselves against bashing hurtful attacks. No one has yet to answer the question of how they can claim they have nothing to do with ip#'s yet they say all trace back to jawlaw. Or how if the ip'#s are changes and someone is running through a ghost ip that they can say it is the same. and finally how if a persons ip is banned they can be accessing with the same ip#. They don't answer because they can't it is not possible. They claim that there are like upwards of 50 banned names ontheir banned list and most are jawlaw. Gosh give me a break! It took me 3 hours to clear any traces of the forum off mu computer just to be able to get in undetected. Jawlaw would have to spend every waking minute setting out to mess with TP fourm and chat. I think it is safe to say she has a life. lol I refused for a long time to get involved with the accusations against jawlaw because I had no part in the past and wanted none. But now having felt the aftermath of the scout and especially cricket and seeing for myself what they are doing. I can see where the claims of jawlaw and many others here on this forum have merit.

Seems to me if TP wants this to end then they need to stop setting people up and stop wildly accusing people of doing thisng they are not doing. How much of this can one person take? How can anyone expect to be attacked this way and NOT defend themselves? Or for that matter be expected to simply present no defense at all?

edited to comply with The Treaty of Monday Chat --proto

-- Edited by protodog at 13:40, 2005-03-29

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

And you never will be treated that way unless u disagree with cricket.

oasis05 · Moderator

I agree with you Mollie on the bashing and all i did was join TP to ask some questions also. Now they are messing with my name. Not that i really care unless i'm blamed for somthing i didn't do. I am a new member there and already my name is messed with and Jawlaw is accused of it. I have only been on TP for a few days and already i see that this forum is nothing like them. Yes they gossip and bash here sometimes. That is human nature and i'm sorry that you were ignored the other night. I don't think i was on then. Anyway, i think this forum is much better. I glad to be a part of it.

KatzPomDogz · You have been awarded the Posting Star of Honor!

Dobes,

As much as I want all of this TP stuff to stop, I have to agree with you. Now, I haven't seen what has been going on lately because I have not been on much. The first time I was banned I will admit it was mostly my fault, I was trying to tell people that Petloversforum.org had been redone and I wanted them to see it, however, I got banned for advertising but yet I did NOT post the name of the forum or the url at all. I wanted to tell the people who already knew about it. The second time I was banned was because I said "I agree" to a person who said that Cricket shouldn't be mod. She showed her self as a biased and very opinionated person prior to being moderator and from day 1 I said I thought that that was a bad idea. Apparently, I was not the only one. I was banned from TP chat for saying "what did I lie about?" I was talking to someone else, explaining my side and she said that they were all lies and that is when I asked what I lied about and then I was banned. I am not going to fight with anyone from TP anymore, the people will just have to see for themselves and you never know, maybe the mods will never attack them but I for one have no interest in TP any longer. I had alot of fun there when I first got on. It was the first forum I was a member of. It really is a shame what ADMIN has lost. He had great potential for that forum. I hope that he sees what he has done. Of course, who knows, maybe he likes it better with less people? I used to reccomend that place to people but I will not any longer.

I don't want to argue any longer with them, they are personally not worth my time, I have pets and kids that need my attention a whole lot more. So, Mollie, I know exactly where you are at and I agree with you. But I also agree with Dobes, I know what it is like to be attacked personally. There are people on there who have gone too far one too many times to a few people. I just hope that more people do not get hurt by "certain people's" actions and rudeness. It is not worth it but to new members, I hope that they are not too greatly affected by the treatment of moderators and hopefully they will continue looking for a better forum where they can ask questions without being attacked. You should be there to help people (kind of the point of a forum) they shouldn't be made to feel stupid for asking a question. I had a person with a pom who wanted to breed her and after explaining everything alot in a nice way, she had her dog fixed because she didn't want to take a chance of hurting her Pumpkin(the dogs name). Education works MUCH better then force and harrassment. Hopefully TP will get that.

Sorry this is so long but that is probably the last you will hear about TP from me.......

MollieMae01 · Moderator

I know I said I would stay away for a while, but, you know, I just can't :) Old habits die hard, I guess. I totally agree with you, pitsanddobes, you, jawlaw, and anyone else here that's having problems with "them" hacking into your ip or whatever, are the only ones that should be angry with "them". But I don't think it's gonna make the situation any better if you all keep going over there to play games with them. It's like "she started it, so I did something back to her and then she did something else to me and then I did something else to her" and back and forth like it was when I was a kid, when we were all kids. I really do hope that nothing gets so out of hand as to where they will be getting into legal matters with everyone here for going over there to start stuff, or vice versa. I really hope everyone's above all that. Right now it's all just silly little childish games. I hope there won't be harassment charges on anyone's part because I remember seeing something over there that if ppl keep harassing them after they're banned, they'll get harassment charges brought out. So I don't really want to hear of that happening to anyone over here because of some stupid childish crap that who cares who started. I do feel really bad for jawlaw being blamed for everything but if we keep going over there to play games, it will never stop. I could give a sh*t less what they think of me. The only thing that bothers me is that some of my friends (you guys) could get into serious trouble if you keep going over there to start stuff. I guess that's all I really have to say.

ADMIN ANSY · Site Admin

I agree this is a topic that needs to be discussed, and I'm glad it was brought up. The difference for some of us is that some had a one time run in and were banned, and then some were banned and are accused almost daily of still being there and causing trouble.

If you had a one time run in, it's easier to let go because "what happened, happened and it's in the past". For some of us (like jawlaw and I) there is no "past" because we are still accused of being there. I hadn't been signed on to TP in nearly 2 months because I was tired of it too, but what I get even more tired of is seeing my name plastered over there when I wasn't there. Jawalw deals with this every single day.

The other night in chat, after jawlaw left.......they talked behind her back and accused her of being me. Lol......I'm sitting right there in the room with them and they are accusing her of being me....and even said that Pits was probably me too. That was my first time there in 2 months. I wonder how often that goes on when i'm not there.

When I joined TP I tried offering help on the areas I knew something about. I didn't know a whole lot about dogs but I did know a little about other problems that members posted about (back then, off topics were allowed). In an effort to help people, I mentioned what I do for a living because I wanted them to know they could trust my advice. BIG mistake. A few of them decided they wanted to drive that into the ground. I was questioned about my validity, about how long I went to school, about what medicines worked for what diagnosis, about why I "thought I was better than everyone else" (and I NEVER thought that. I even told them that on their board), and so many more things. My membership there became nothing but a question/answer session about what I did for a living. I earned my degree and I was not about to have it dis-respected by a few people who thought thats just what they could do. I voluntarily went into chat one night with several TP members - mostly the ones who had tried to cause me trouble. I went there to make things right and get rid of all the hostility. They couldn't handle that. Instead, they interrogated me like there was no tomorrow. I sat there and took it in an effort to make things more amicable, only to have them laugh behind my back when I left the chat room that night.

Plain and simple - they are a bunch of bullies and I deal with bullies nearly every day. Bullies are people who like to make themselves feel better than others by causing trouble, telling lies, and saying threatening things to make the other inferior. I saw through what they were doing and proved them wrong on every point they made against me. Thats why I was banned.

Once I made this place I decided that I would not bring my job into things this time. I am not required to be a professional anywhere other than my place of employment. The things I do here are not things I'd do in real life and it's not the way I'd handle problems like this in real life. The only thing I'd do the same is when I call out a liar. I have been able to do that several times with them, and recently have caught Minniyar in a flat out lie against jawlaw.

Whether in our internet world or in our 'real' world, I've always found it to be important for people to know who is lieing to them. You never want to trust a liar because you never know when what they are telling you is real. These people are over there giving out information to others who take it seriously. They are looked upon as being more 'trusted' because they have credentials such as being a moderator. A moderator of a forum should be trustworthy, but how can they be trustworthy to give out any kind of information if they are wrongly and unfairly making accusations of others, lieing about things to make themsleves look better, and down right swearing that its all true? The new members of TP have no clue what has happened in the past. They come on and believe what they are told because they don't know the 'other' side of the story. Occasionally discussing it here gives them the opportunity to make an informed decision on how they want to proceed.

This last discussion of TP has become larger than in the past but I think it's due to so many issues arising at once. Pits was banned, jawlaw was accused again, we went into chat, and Minniyar lied. Just like the others, it will also go away.

Was going into chat the other night wrong? Yes. Should I have done it? No. Why did I do it? Because I wanted to confirm what I was suspecting - that jawlaw and I were still being accused of creating all their heartache. It was easily confirmed. I made sure they knew it was me before I was kicked out of the room. I will own up to what I do, even if its wrong. One thing I have learned in life is that sometimes you have to be wrong, in order to be right. That is exactly what I did.

Mollie, I apologize for making you feel left out. I'm sorry. You are right that this is all childish, I can see that. I'm just one of those people who don't take lightly to being called a liar when I haven't lied. I feel the need to defend that. A while back, I emailed every moderator and ADMIN and asked that my name stop being used on their site. For my part, I'd quit posting over there. I held up to my end of the bargain - for 2 months, they just couldn't do it.

These may be strong words, but they are mean, arrogant, agressive, and extrememly disrespectful people. I'll never get over the fact that they used the death of a boy who was like a son to me to 'get on my good side' and then turn on me. They took the weakest point in my life and buttered me up, giving me kind words when I needed them.......only to stab me in the back when they wanted their next laugh. Cliff was killed Feb. 4th. We still have not buried him, so yes, I still have open wounds about that. What they did to me was just plain WRONG. When you feel as strongly about something as I do that, it's hard not to want to 'get back at them', and each time I prove them a liar thats exactly what I am doing.

If they want me to stop, they need to publicly post on one of the two forums that they were wrong in accusing me of posting there when I wasn't - and that it was not me that was doing the posting. They claim they can check IP's so this shouldn't be a probelm (but we all now know the IP claim is fake because they are accusing it of being jawlaw when it was pits - and therefore they'll never admit it because it would prove their claim wrong to everyone), and they need to apologize for treating me like they did when Cliff died. It takes a ruthless group of people to do that and a public apology from Pearl and Cricketmom is the only way I'm going to let that one go. It's not so much the apology, but the fact that they could admit it to everyone and admit they were wrong. When they do that......I'll stop. And if they apologize for their wrong doing to everyone they have involved, then I'll keep the TP posts off this board. I have personally apologized to ADMIN for disrupting his board and to Pearl. I never apologized to Minniyar because I didn't have any problem with her until just a few days ago and the only thing I did was let the boards know she was lieing to them. CM, I don't even want to talk about her. I apologized to her in chat and she said that it wasn't good enough and that she didnt want any part of it. I feel I have done my part in trying to resolve this.

My apologies to those of you who dont like these topics, but this has went deeper than a chat forum to me.....when they mocked Cliffs death just to get info from me, that was more than I was willing to take. I hope you can understand why I am upset with them, and maybe not think any less of me or be upset with me. Imagine if you lost a child and someone did that to you. I am human and I have feelings too. There are alot of things I will back down from, but this is not one of them.

Regardless of what I do, I will try my best to make sure it affects this forum as little as possible. As a courtesy to other members, if we start a topic with a TP issue, make that noted up front. If we are in chat, I agree that we should all be sociable in chat even if we are in other rooms.

In my own quest to get back at the people who attacked me, I neglected one of our own members who was dealing with their own loss. That is not what I wanted this forum to be and I apologize to each of you for that behavior I displayed in The Furum's chat room.

edited to comply with The Treaty of Monday Chat --protodog

-- Edited by protodog at 13:46, 2005-03-29

ADMIN ANSY · Site Admin

Pearl and Lalayla - since you all read this board religiously......let me show you why I'm still so upset with you.....

Maybe this is a good thing for me. Maybe what Mollie said has finally let me get it all out now so that I too, can let go of it.I know some of you think I let this get to me too much, but its not any different than waking up and reading the newspaper with the same information in it. It would upset any of us to see a columnist who had interrogated us at a weak point and then plastered our name all in the paper with false accusations for others to read.

edited to comply with The Treaty of Monday Chat --protodog

-- Edited by protodog at 13:52, 2005-03-29

MollieMae01 · Moderator

Here I am again, just can't stay away, lol. I wasn't looking for an apology or anything of the sort. I just wanted everyone to know what they sounded like the other night. Ansy, I forgot about that whole thing with Cliff and I do remember how you were treated, as if your job has anything to do with the internet and discussion forums. It was very rude and cruel of them to even bring it up. I also know that you, jawlaw, and pitsanddobes get blamed for everything over there that goes wrong and that CM is on a power trip. But, would you have ever known about any of that stuff if y'all weren't going over there to see it?? I just wonder if it would've affected any of you any differently, had you not known about it. I'm really not trying to start sh*t with any of you, or defend anything "they" say or do on the other forum. What they did was wrong, yes. I totally understand how you all feel, I would probably feel the same way if I was personally attacked by anyone. And, yes, "they" do lie over there and should all just be honest with each other about things. I just think "they" are trying to save face with everybody else over there so they don't have to explain why they look bad and they don't want to admit they made a mistake about anything. I also feel bad for jessica, shadowdog, and ginaH, and anyone else here that's still a member there for being all caught up in the middle of it, hearing them bash us and us bash them. I enjoyed talking to them on tp and look forward to talking to them here as well. I just want everyone here to know that i love y'all and would like to stay friends with everybody, so long as you don't think I'm being rude.

bessieloubop · 2:21 PM, 03/22/05

Hi,
This is bessieloubop from TP. MollieMae emailed me this morning, and again invited me to come over to the furum to say hi. I guess I know some of you from TP, but I am still a relative newbie, so I don't know you all that well. I don't know what happened with any of the bannings, or why, and it is hard for me to relate to this thread because I have a great time on TP. I'll admit I am one of the suck-ups, but I also don't participate in any of the arguements that go on. I am just there to have fun.
I'm not really sure why I am here... I guess to support MollieMae. It really hurts my feelings that when she was in need, she was abandoned. I understand you guys apologized to her, people make mistakes, but whoever was participating in the chat room on fiasco that night, did the same thing to a TP member. It was the eve of her having to put her beloved dog to sleep, and all anybody could do was bash, bash, bash. It sickened me. I told Mollie there was no way I could come say hi on the furum after what I saw.
Listen, I know it's a two way street, there is no way I am going to pretend that I know the whole story. Ansy, I know you explained why you came into chat, but you kind of neglected to mention the manner in which you got everyone all riled up. I have to admit, I thought you were a troll after the first 5 things you wrote. And because someone keeps dropping your address in whenever there is a fight, or soliciting members that are having trouble there, of course people are going to put two and two together and assume it is you. You being the collective whole that is the furum.
As for your apologies, I just don't see that ever happening. I'm sorry that one of your family members has died, but it is so very difficult for me to believe that "they" used that to get to you. I only have admiration and appreciation for all the mods, and find them to be fair and just, and yes humans who make mistakes, so to envision them doing something as such is really quite ludicrous. I am sorry if that offends you, but it is my humble opinion.
The only way any of this is going to stop, is for it to just stop. I suppose I am being a terrible hypocrite for even posting here, but I hope you can see that my intentions are good. I just want this cycle of b.s. to end, so we can get back to enjoying our dogs and our lives. It is my sincere wish that this happens.
Any helloooooooooooooooooo MollieMae!

-- Edited by bessieloubop at 14:34, 2005-03-22

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

"The new members of TP have no clue what has happened in the past. They come on and believe what they are told because they don't know the 'other' side of the story."

This is true to a point. There are a select few who wonder and do not simply believe all they hear. I am one of them and for that I was pursued far worse then most. You would not believe the emails I recieved from people with far worse baggering then I ever got on the forum and the forum was pretty bad. I will never forget the worst moment ever I have expierenced on that forum.....

Not last november but the prior november I had a very bad accident. I had been working for weeks straight with little sleep on a long list of legal cases for parents desperate to save their children. That is what I did with most of my time. I had been dealing with personal issues of my own and financial difficulties at the time and was under agreat deal of stress. (I have an 11 year old child who's father kidnapped him several years ago.) The stress of my own case and the strain on myself trying to help others was taking it's toll on me. My body said enough and I passed out cold. Unfortunatly it happend while I was getting out of the shower one afternoon. I hit my head so hard on the tub when I passed out that it knocked me sensless. My husband found me in the bathroom unconcious. When I came to I did not know who I was or where I was. I was terrified of my own dogs who I had raised and trained myself and would necer hurt me. It took me over a year to regain most of my memory and to this day some things are fuzzy. Since the accident my vision has been poor and getting worse every day. I had a very hard time seeing while posting on the TP forum as the print was so small. I still ahve a hard time here sometimes because I can barely see the keyboard. (cant type without looking lol) I was attacked on the TP forum for something I had said and a very nasty reference to my typing and spelling was made. It hurt deeply that someone could be so cruel simply because they did not agree with me. Now the member said they were sorry but that still is not the point. Not one moderator ever said a word about how I was treated. I may be 32 years old but I have feelings and they get hurt just like anyone elses. I cried most of that afternoon because I was made fun of like that for something I simply cannot help.

St. Patricks day my son turned 11 and I was not even able to say happy b-day to him. I live every day praying that God will help me to bring him home and to ease the pain I feel I dive into my work with these animals. Members on these forums have lives. They are Real people with Real feelings. Many have real life day to day problems that just because they do not talk about them does not mean they do not exist. I have 4 children I gave birth too and the advocacy work I do with families is dedicatd to them. I do it because I never want to see someone go through the gut wrenching pain I have felt. My son is abused daily by his father and the system designed to protect these children has done nothing to help locate him or protect him. Everytime I get close to finding him he runs again. All I have left is reports from those who knew him and they tell a painful story about my sons life with his father. I worked hard to become the well trained advocate I am today and I take my work very seriously. I have helped many children get back home and each day I pray the next one will be mine. I get highly defensive when someone who knows nothing about me or the work I do makes comments about my being an advocate. I was picked apart and stomped on about this very issue. I have a deep seated faith in God and for that reasons and some others I became an ordained minister. I am not a perfect person. I cuss every now and then (I do not say GD) and I have a firey temper. But there is not a person out there who if they needed help I would not bend over backwards to assist them.

I never wanted to see this come to the point it has. I would rather make friends with everyone and get along. But as someone once stated about themselves I am VERY gun shy. I have been hurt way too much in my life where I did not take a stand for myself to not do so now. I vowed the day the man I loved with my whole heart, stole and abused my child that I would never allow anyone to walk all over me again and not speak up.

Some people have wounds that never quite heal and for a person to come along and exploit a persons kindness by taking and raking those old wounds open to fester they are asking for a backlash.

Time and time again I have asked several people on that forum including Cricket to back off me and leave me alone. Never once did they dare to consider it. The night I was banned in chat I was NOT rude to cricket I just disagreed with her. I was pounced on and when she was through she said "I am done with this" and left banning me in the process. She did not come for a calm discussion to try and work things out she came with the full intent of attacking me.

As for the issue with Jawlaw and Ansy I consider them my friends and I am pretty loyal to my friends. But I think there is someone getting forgotten in all this. colliemom was attacked badly in chat the other night right along with me for simply asking a question. She was reffered to as being someone under 13 years old and talked to like she was garbage. She made a statement that cricket had no right to speak to her in such a nasty manner and asked for an apology and was promptly banned. Colliemom and I have spoken on the phone at length and she is no child.

Ansy I am so sorry for your loss and I know it doesn't help much but for what it is worth I will be praying for you and your family.

As for me I DEMAND and apology from cricket mom as well as ADMIN for the way I was treated and for hacking into my account. and Colliemom deserves one as well. I want a public apology and I want no one mentioning my name on that forum Until that happens they will continue to have issues with me. As for a legal issue proxy's are perfectly legal anyone can use them there are tens of thousands out ther ethat are free! Hacking is a different story and I will not tolerate it!

edited to comply with The Treaty of Monday Chat --protodog

-- Edited by protodog at 13:56, 2005-03-29

jawlaw · Moderator

OMG- Ansy, your post explains their personality completely.... it is sad and scary that they would use something like that and I DO BELIEVE IT. Who cares if they blame me everyday... I still remember the chatroom discussion they had with Ansy and she tried to trust them. Very sad. Probably, the best punishment for them is for all of us to bond here together and completely ignore them...sometimes it gets hard for me.... I have a little bit of a "wild" streak in me...that I am trying to control.... ha ha..:):) but if that is as bad as it gets...going on a forum that unfairly banned me under assumed names....however, I plan on being better and making our forum better instead of theirs. If the controversy of all of us was not happening over there, their forum would go bust. I do again apologize to the members who go to both places. I know you are tired of this, especially Jessica who has been unfairly blamed as a go between -which she has not been. I also apologize to Ansy for forgetting what they did to her and only thinking of myself!

colliemom · Puppy Post'er (I'm gonna be one BAD dog someday!)

As far as I'm concerned they have absoleutely NO class whatsoever...

I'm not sure what made any of the "wrong doers" think that they are better than any one else but for me...nothing and non-existent...I've come to far and struggled to long to let them have cause and affect on my life. Yes, I'm very angry because of the way I was "talked" to but they don't change my life, take care of my husband and pups, or for that matter offer to clean my house...I say good ridance to them...

YES, you all deserve a definite apology...without a doubt

edited for namecalling I missed on the first read --proto

-- Edited by protodog at 13:59, 2005-03-29

MollieMae01 · Moderator

Wow!! I knew this was going to stir-up some feelings, but geez!! I'm sorry to all of you that were done so wrong over there. My intent on starting this thread was not to make everybody so wound-up. I just called it as I saw it, so to speak. I had totally forgotten that colliemom was treated unfairly and pitsanddobes was bashed for how she spelled. I just wondered if anyone would've even known about all the recent stuff if they hadn't been "nosing" around there. I do apologize to everyone for getting them so riled-up about something so "trivial". I guess it's trivial to me because I was never spoken-to in such a manner as some of you all have and I'm sorry for bringing up such bad memories. That was not my intent either. But I agree with you, jawlaw, we should all just let it go, despite the hard feelings and the hurt feelings and such. Even though it's hard, I know, to let some things go, it really needs to be done. How many times did your mom tell you, when you came home from school crying because you were made fun of, that you should ignore them and not get mad and let it go?? Or how many of you with kids have said that to them?? I'm so sorry for your loss, Ansy. I'm also very sorry for your loss, pits, I truly hope you do find him and give that man that stole him what he deserves. I just want everyone to know I love you all and don't be mad at me, I'm not mad at anyone either.

ADMIN ANSY · Site Admin

~~Probably, the best punishment for them is for all of us to bond here together and completely ignore them.~~

Jawlaw, I couldn't agree more!

Thank you all for letting me flip-out and post such personal information about my family here. I honestly say that I feel better after doing it. I don't know why, but if thats what it took, then so be it. I had some really deep seated feelings about that deal with Cliff and I needed to just let them out. I know some of you have no idea how it all realtes to my being a member of TP, but its just because you weren't around back then.

Stormy is another one they treated like crap the other night - and she isnt even a banned member.

Bessielou - I'm glad you decided to join, even if its only to support Molliemae. You are right, I did create a stir in the chat room the other night. It was after I saw them doing their same old thing. Originally I was just anice 'girl' who bought a horse. When they got out of hand, I allowed myself to do that also. That does not justify my behavior. I clearly chose to do what I did and no one is responsible for it other than me. Do I regret it? I can't say that I do. I am still very hostile towards some of them.

I'll consider today to be my first day of being "TP FREE" and no longer continue to allow those people who have no lives to alter what goes on in mine. I'll be 'the bigger man' and walk away (again) and let them wither in their self pity. Thats the only way its going to stop for me.

Mollie - don't apologize. You have no need to. I think starting thread was a good thing, at least for me. I still think as highly of you as I always did. I'm glad I was able to finally get some things off my chest........so I can move on.

Now, where's the dog talk?

-- Edited by ADMIN ANSY at 14:51, 2005-03-22

MollieMae01 · Moderator

I have to say that this is actually my first "controversial" post. Not to mention, the most responses I've ever gotten to any of my posts. I feel like I've really contributed to this forum for the first time since I've been here. I just hope I didn't step on anyone's toes or **** anyone off in the process. There are no hard feelings over here, on my end. What's done is done and I think everyone has their own opinion. This is what makes a good discussion forum-we can all talk about whatever we want and not get into any fights over anything, and still stay friends. Now isn't that what it's all about??