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I know that everyone is probably tired of hearing about housebreaking problems, so I"m sorry, bkut I just need to vent and could use some advice!

Just as background, I have had quite a few dogs--some puppies, some older, all types of breeds and mixes, so I am pretty used to housebreaking pups. I have had more trouble with some than with others, but no dog I've had has been as difficult as Harry. He is the first dog I've ever owned that came from a pet store so I know that is part of the problem. The good thing is that even though he is from a pet store I have had great success crate training him. He won't ever go in his crate--which is a really good thing!!

I want to try to start weaning him from the crate like I have done in the past with my other pups. Right now I keep Koda (who is totally housetrained) in our kitchen when we arne't home. I keep her in there not because of potty reasons but just so that she does not have free reign of the house and becuase it is the only truly puppy proofed room in the house. I want to start leaving Harry in the kitchen with Koda but I just cannot seem to wean him from the crate. While he doesn't have accidents in his crate, he DOES still freely go in the house I can maybe leave him for an hour or two outside of the crate (MAYBE) but any longer than that and he has an accident. Its like he won't hold it UNLESS he is in his crate. I've caught him in the act, brought him outside, done the praising and all that stuff. I just seem to have hit a road block in his housetraining.

I HATE leaving him in the crate and Koda in the kitchen--I want them to be able to play with eachother.

Any suggestions on how to wean him from the crate?

Two other questions--

1. What is everyone's view on using puppy pee pee pads. Ive always been against using them because I would think that reinforces the idea of going in the house--but I'm just curious if anyone has had success using them for dogs that you are trying to housebreak. Also, I am thinking Harry and Koda will just chew them up!

2. Any suggestions on teaching a dog to "ask" to go out? Again, all my pups in the past have just sort of naturally learned this. Usually they learn it because when they are in the crate they cry when they have to get up in the morning or at night. My problem with harry is that he NEVER makes a peep in his crate. Koda is the one that always wakes up first and then I take them both out. Even when koda isn't crying, Harry just doesn't let me know if he has to go or not when he is in his crate. Its very strange

anyway, I am sorry for the long boring post. I'm just getting nervous because Harry is almost 8 months old and its never taken me this long to housetrain a pup. Am I doing something wrong or am I just being impatient? THanks for letting me drone on and on and I would be grateful for any tips or suggestions.

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daisysmom76


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I know exactly what you're going through.  My little Sheppy, the king of the hill, has to mark anything and everything.  Pee pads didn't work for me.  I had to take him out, get him to go and then only give him about an hour of playtime before crating him again.  He's better now, but still some accidents.   Upstairs is definately off limits to him and I would love to let him sleep with me, but no dice, he'll go during the night.  He can last in his crate forever, though.  I seem to have bad luck with housetraining.  Daisy was pretty bad til she got a bit older.  I' could go to hawaii on the money I spent on damage control. 

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GinaH


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I definitely know how you are feeling! Winston my English Bulldog was nearly 7 months old before I was able to get him trained and he sometimes still has accidents and I have had lots of experience with house training dogs. Some dogs are just harder to train than others my Pekingese was also very hard to train. All my dogs sleep in their crates at night and while I'm gone just because it's the safest place for them and it doesn't invite accidents. I have never used the pee pee pads because I just never liked the idea of them but my Mother-in-law uses them with her Maltese and has had great success.
 
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LOL, well i'm glad its not just me :) I thought I was going crazy. I'll just keep at it with Harry and keep using the crate. He is so mischievious (sp) that he always seems to find something to get into, so the crate might be safest for him anyway! Thanks so much for replying! GinaH--your babies are sooooo cute, especially Winston!

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Meg.....ugh....I feel your pain.  Ivan is just over 4 months old and has been a nightmare at housebreaking.  We tried crate training him, but he just used his crate  - and it was a  small crate.  I've never seen a dog use a rate before....and he'd do it after only being there a short while.  His 'potty breaks' are never predictable.  Could be 15 minutes after feeding or 3 hours.


Piper on the other hand, just seemed to have common snese that told him not to go in the house.  He will hold it and has never been in a crate before (but he is an adult dog and Ivan is a pup).   The two dogs are as different as night and day on that.  Our solution was to make them outside dogs who we let in for play time each day.  Both are big dogs and once Ivan is grown, we couldn't have realistically had 2 house dogs that size...lol, so we put them in the back yard. 


The windows from my bedroom face the back yard, so sometimes I open the windows and the dogs sit there and watch me surf the web...lol


Right now though......they are both conked out on the floor beside me. I wish I had some advice for you, but I don't.  I think its just the difference in the dogs.  Some learn quickly - some don't.



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if you yes the pup pads, buy some of the yes/no sprays, so he can tell by the smells were he can go.  slowy move the pads to the back door, the out the door.  make sure you spray the no spray were the pad use to be.  maybe that will get him out the door


 


good luck



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