Terri Shivao

Shadow · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

Terri Shivao

dorothybaez · Puppy Post'er (I'm gonna be one BAD dog someday!)

That whole situation is unspeakable. I hope everyone on the Furum will make a living will/durable power of attorney for health care so that none of us will be murdered this way.

Both my boys, especially the younger one, wanted to hitch hike to Florida and save her.....

Dorothy

Kittys Mom · ~Best In Show~ Senior Board Member!

Hum. Don't know what to say about that one. Always being accused of being cold, when I feel I am being practical, my opinion will doubtless get me flamed...

God in his mercy grant her grace.

Paige · ~Grand Champion~ Gold Medal Poster!

Kitty, I know what you mean about this one and I think I will keep to myself on it. But may she rest in peace now.

Shadow · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

Well my biggest concern about Terri was who was calling the shots....MICHAEL. Her parents should have been able to file for a divorce (in her behalf)once he moved on.IMO he seems to be a control freak.I don't care what the situation, any one with a heart whatsoever would have allowed her family be at her side as she was passing

GoddessIsis · 11:23 AM, 03/31/05

I'm not gonna get into my opinion on the matter since its all done now. I hope she is at peace and happy where she is now though. I do think it was unnesicarily (sp?) cruel of him not to let her parents see her as she was dying.

daisysmom76 · 11:58 AM, 03/31/05

Yes, I agree. It was cruel that he didn't allow them to be with her at her passing. Very very sad.

puttin510 · ~Grand Champion~ Gold Medal Poster!

This whole thing makes me feel sick. I just can't read more about it.

MollieMae01 · Moderator

Yes, I agree, keeping to myself. Just don't understand why it took him 7 years to decide that this is what she would have wanted?? I guess he lost anyway, all his money he won from the malpractice suit went to keeping her alive for 15 years. So, I think he got what he deserved.........nothing.

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

Well I have a real issue with all of this and I guess it is because it hits home for me. I think that her husband lost his right to decide when he moved on and had a whole new family. There is no real proof that this is what she would have wanted and she was fully capable of swollowing. While she MAY have not wanted a feeding tube that is an entirely different matter then not allowing her to have food and water the old fashioned way. Taking out the tube was one thing BUT to say it is acceptable to not allow food and water by mouth is to say that suicide is acceptable. This woman was a devout Catholic and we all know that suicide is a sin. I find it hard to believe a devout Catholic would opt for suicide. Plus her husband is going to get a chunck of money from her life insurance so to say he does not benifit from her death is a joke. In my opinion he is a murder and I really feel for her parents. Had it been my daughter I can honestly say I would be in prison now and he would have been disposed of a long time ago.

It is hard for me all of this because a man I loved a great deal is now in a semi comatose state. He can swollow but they feed him by tube.

Pete was in a head on collision with a dump truck over 11 years ago. I love my current husband dearly but Pete was the love of my life. My life was forever changed just a few months before we were to be married. My daughter was named primary benificiary to his estate in excess of over 100,000.00 and it is now in an anuity fund until she is 21 years old. This is not even his biological child. The money cannot even be touched for his care and yet had I the decision to make I would not starve him to death. Terri made a profound statement to her life long best friend when she said "where there is life there is hope." My heart goes out to her parents because it is bad enough to lose a child but to be helpless as someone slowly murders your daughter has to me got to be the mostr gutt wrenching agony of all.

If in fact the autopsy shows abuse to this woman I hope they sentence him to death. And it should be by starvation just like he killed his wife.

Shadow · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

They said today that there was no life insurance on Terri.My Mom had a feeding tube for about 6 months after she had her stroke and she could swallow but the food would reguirgatate(sp) into her lungs due to weak muscles in the throat.

KatzPomDogz · You have been awarded the Posting Star of Honor!

P&D, I completely agree with you! I have two daughters and that just would not have happened. I might get the death sentence myself for what I would do to any man that would kill my girls that way.

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

Well I did not hear that and it is funny because for months they were saying that there was a policy in excess of a million on her life. And the num nutz that married her was the benificiary. Still it was proven that this woman could drink liquids and swollowed jello that was fed to her. You just do not starve someone to death. If she was totally brain dead and could not breath on her own then that is one thing. Even I would not want to be kept alive by a breathing machine but starving to death is a cruel way to kil someone IMO. I most assuredly would have killed that man if it were my daughter. I have no problem saying that either.

ltlgto · 5:37 PM, 03/31/05

I have to agree with Dorothy, it is a good reminder to everyone to have a living will/durable power of attorney so your personal wishes will be met, whatever your view. Don't let somebody else decide for you.

Shadow · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

I totally agree on what you said Pits.His attorney was making a speech this morning and someone from the press ask him about insurance and he said not to his or Michaels knowledge.The guy gives me the creeps looking at him!!!!! I so feel for her family.

Sandyboo · MAD DOG!

I haven't been following the case too much, but we talked about this is law class yesterday. I really don't think it's fair that her "husband" got to make the decision about her life. He moved on, has a new life now. Therefore he shouldn't have anything to say about it. Not to make him out like he's cold hearted, but it just seems like there could be a conflict of interest there. IMO her family (parents, children, siblings, ect.) should have been the one to make the decision...and they should have been allowed there with her at ALL times!

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

You know I am not sure about florida but isn't there stil such a thing as common law marriage? It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that this guy lost his rights as her husband when he went out and made himself a new family. And how in the heck does he explain this to his kids? Are they of school age? I mean imagine what they are going through I am sure they are catching flack from the other kids about their father being a cold hearted killer.

moencat · 6:20 PM, 03/31/05

Won't get into my opinion on the matter...I see far too many patients in this condition to be impartial...

BUT, P&D it is NOT true that Terri Schiavo could swallow. She had dysphagia due to her brain injury and could not be SAFELY fed by mouth. That is why they only gave her a drop of wine and not the bread for her last communion. Yes, they could have given her food and water by mouth once the tube was pulled, but it would have put her at high risk for pneumonia. Also, they probably would not have been able to get enough in her by mouth to sustain her. Either way she would not have lived....

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

actually that is not the case. Her origional guardian adlitem(sp) did in fact have her tested to see if she could eat safely and showed that she could. It would have taken her a while to eat a meal and she would have had to have help but she could eat.

Erica · MAD DOG!

I agree that it is a sad situation and they way she died makes me sick. But i have mixed feelings on the whole thing. Now i don't understand why the husband decided to do this after all these years! I think that is strange in its self. I think it was just EVIL that he did not let her parents be in the room as she was dying. But here is where my mixed feelings come in.....oh i will probably feel some heat from this but oh well.....i don't understand why her parents were keeping her alive. My husband and I have made agreements with each other, that if we are ever in a physical state like Terries ...or worse obviously, let me go. That is just my opinion and i do see how it would be hard to let him or her go but it just doesnt seem right. Like i said before though, depriving her of food and water is just wrong....its is more than wrong. I am just glad that she can now rest in peace.