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Below is the complete corrospondance between myself and MSN about the recent email issue with headers.


>From: "MSN Hotmail Support" <support_x_EN_SY@css.one.microsoft.com>
>To: <sissy5211@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE:RE: CST190160800ID - RE:MSN Spaces Abuse: Report Abuse or offensive: : sissy5211@hotmail.com:
>Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:30:02 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>X-Originating-IP: 10.251.84.153
>Received: from smtphost1.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.116]) by mc7-f11.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:28:02 -0700
>Received: from EXT-SMTP-01.partners.extranet.microsoft.com ([10.251.70.190]) by smtphost1.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1802); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:27:49 -0700
>Received: from tksdspsmtcss02.partners.extranet.microsoft.com ([10.251.84.153]) by EXT-SMTP-01.partners.extranet.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:30:05 -0700
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>X-Message-Info: w8GDWAoULp2eNfnC+hkmzvx4jcDwUtbENlYvPE080E0vaMbo+XLAhw==
>Thread-Topic: RE: CST190160800ID - RE:MSN Spaces Abuse: Report Abuse or offensive: : sissy5211@hotmail.com:
>X-Mailer: Microsoft CSS 2000
>X-CSSTicketID: 190160800
>thread-index: AcU9lrnbQcelgM6mTIC6fN+NXB4fqQ==
>Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
>Priority: normal
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2005 06:30:02.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9E94B30:01C53D96]
>Return-Path: support_x_EN_SY@css.one.microsoft.com
>
>Hello Renee,
>
>
>Thank you for writing back to MSN Hotmail Technical Support.
>
>This is Paul and I have read the email exchange between you and Victory
>that a member of a web forum received an e-mail from
>BitchSquad@hotmail.com, threatening for virus attacks. Due to this, you
>also mentioned that you would like to know the following:
>
>- Can a free Hotmail account link with another free e-mail account?
>- Would MSN give out your information to another person?
>- If your sissy5211@hotmail.com account is link with
>BitchSquad@hotmail.com.
>
>I understand how important it is to have your concerns addressed
>immediately and I am pleased to assist you.
>
>Renee, it is not possible that a free Hotmail account is link with
>another free e-mail account. This means, your sissy5211@hotmail.com
>account is not link nor connected with BitchSquad@hotmail.com; more so,
>I have verified that BitchSquad@hotmail.com is a non-existing account.
>
>Meanwhile, MSN Hotmail does not give its customers personal information
>to someone or other personal e-mail address. This is in compliance our
>Privacy policy and with the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA)
>in the United States, and other privacy regulations worldwide unless a
>subpoena is presented or issued.
>
>You are valuable at MSN and we look forward to providing you with
>consistent and effective service. If you have any inquiries, please do
>not hesitate to write back.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Paul V.
>MSN Hotmail Technical Support
>
>P.S. Want a boost for your Hotmail? Try MSN Hotmail Plus! You'll get 8
>times your current storage limit and double your attachment size limit,
>so you can store and send more files and photos than ever before. Plus
>you can say goodbye to graphical ads that clutter your e-mail
>experience. All this for only $19.95/year, which is less than $2/month!
>Click here <http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/13870>  to learn more. Offer good
>in US only.
>
>--- Original Message ---
>From: sissy5211@hotmail.com
>To: abuse_en_sy@css.one.microsoft.com
>Sent: Thu Apr 7 01:31:20 PDT 2005
>Subject: RE: CST190160800ID - RE:MSN Spaces Abuse: Report Abuse or
>offensive: : sissy5211@hotmail.com:
>
>
>Hi sorry let me be more clear. This woman claims she talked to MSN on
>the
>phone and that they told her that bitchsquad account had been deleted
>but
>that it was traced back to my sissy5211 account. This woman has also
>stated
>she deleted the email so I cannot provide you with it nor can she
>apparently.
>My questions are....
>
>Can a FREE hotmail email account link with another free email account?
>In a situation such as this would MSN give someone information as to
>another
>persons personal email address?
>Finally can you please confirm weather or not my current hotmail account
>is
>or has been linked with any other?
>
>Thank you in advance.
>Renee
>
> >From: "MSN Hotmail Technical Support"
> >To:
> >Subject: CST190160800ID - RE:MSN Spaces Abuse: Report Abuse or
>offensive: :
> >sissy5211@hotmail.com:
> >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:40:06 -0700
> >
> >Hello Renee,
> >
> >
> >Your e-mail was forwarded to MSN Hotmail Technical Support.
> >
> >This is Victory and I am responding to your concern on the e-mail
> >associated with virus received by the web forum member. I understand
> >your concern regarding this matter.
> >
> >For us to investigate your issue, please ask the member of the forum to
> >contact us directly and provide us a copy of the message she received
> >with full message header exposed so that we could take action against
> >the sender.
> >
> >The soonest we receive this information from her, we'll be more than
> >happy to assist her.
> >
> >Thank you very much for your continued support to MSN Hotmail.
> >
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >
> >Victory B.
> >MSN Hotmail Technical Support
> >
> >P.S. Want a boost for your Hotmail? Try MSN Hotmail Plus! You'll get 8
> >times your current storage limit and double your attachment size limit,
> >so you can store and send more files and photos than ever before. Plus
> >you can say goodbye to graphical ads that clutter your e-mail
> >experience. All this for only $19.95/year, which is less than $2/month!
> >Click here to learn more. Offer good
> >in US only.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Original Message ---
> >From: sissy5211@hotmail.com
> >To: space.0000.na.us.en.syk.mnl.au.t01.spt.00.em@css.one.microsoft.com
> >Sent: Mon Apr 4 18:52:32 PDT 2005
> >Subject: MSN Spaces Abuse: Report Abuse or offensive: :
> >sissy5211@hotmail.com:
> >
> >
> >Name:
> >Renee
> >E-mail address:
> >sissy5211@hotmail.cim
> >What e-mail address would you like a response sent to?:
> >sissy5211@hotmail.com
> >
> >If you are reporting abuse or offensive behavior: Please remember to
> >include the Web address (URL) of the content or image involved. Please
> >also give as much detail as possible including the title of the image
> >and/or Space.:I am trying to find out some information. A member of a
> >web forum recieved an email from BitchSquad@hotmail.com. This email
> >threatend her with virus attacks. She has posted recently that this
> >email address was connected to my own email address of
> >sissy5211@hotmail.com and that msn has confirmed this. I would like to
> >please know if there is any information connecting these two email
> >addresses. Could you please assist me as I did not send this email.
> >
> >Frequency of the issue::First time
> >
> >Service: MSN Spaces Abuse
> >Type of issue::
> >Report Abuse or offensive behavior
> >
> >
> >
> >Which operating system are you using?: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE
> >6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
> >Which browser are you using: IE6
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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jawlaw


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Well- I believed you without this, but I am glad you found it so the others can see!

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Good Job Pits!!  I'm glad you finally was able to clear this up.  Be sure to save that email in case someone still doesn't believe you.  Forwarding it to them in an email should clear up any doubts (if there are any).


In the end, the truth always prevails.


I think it is appropriate that you posted this here so that those who weren't sure what to think can now see for themselves.  However, lets make sure we do not turn this into a bashing thread.  We are better than that.


The truth is out.  They will see it.......and thats really all that matters.  No one has to make any more 'decisions' about what to believe because there is no decision to be made.  What you were accused of never happened and MSN has confirmed that. 


Again......good job!



-- Edited by Ansy at 21:55, 2005-04-10

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I believed you too.    now you have proof for all the people who doubted you.

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Congrats, the truth shall always prevail, in most cases......

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Yes I guess I should be really happy and for the most part I am but I still have one unanswered question......WHY?


Why would someone do such a thing? And take and drag my children in on it too? I just don't get it.



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uh oh i think i am going to be in trouble over at the other place. I am sticking up for pits's post over there. So i am cruisin' for a bruisin'!!! LOL

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Oh yeah, Erica- you are history...lol..maybe since I said this, they will prove me wrong and leave you alone. That is what they should do!

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They claim it is a fake lol everyone scrambles when the real truth comes out. But oh well. Interesting how they claim that the origional email with headers was posted on mizzi's chat....hmm we have yet to see them post a header for anything. There was NEVER a post of the email she claimed to recieve that included headers.


To and from is not a header! All that is over there is a bunch of garbage anyone can copy and paste from the net. They know I proved I did not send it. Let them talk Erica. People show their true colors eventually.



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Sometimes i think i will be attcked but it gets ignored so we will see LOL

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As a side note - I still have the PM from GinaH to me that says she deleted that original email.  I asked her to forward it to me so I could help look into it and she informed me that she could not do so because she didn't have it anymore.


If she didn't have it to forward to me, then she didn't have it to post anywhere else. 


And I quote the first sentence from that PM  ........."Ansy I deleted the email right after I got it. I spoke with AOL and they told me to delete it and block the email address. "



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>From: "MSN Hotmail Support" <support_x_EN_SY@css.one.microsoft.com>
>To: <sissy5211@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE:RE: CST190160800ID - RE:MSN Spaces Abuse: Report Abuse or offensive: : sissy5211@hotmail.com:
>Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:30:02 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>X-Originating-IP: 10.251.84.153
>Received: from smtphost1.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.116]) by mc7-f11.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:28:02 -0700
>Received: from EXT-SMTP-01.partners.extranet.microsoft.com ([10.251.70.190]) by smtphost1.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1802); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:27:49 -0700
>Received: from tksdspsmtcss02.partners.extranet.microsoft.com ([10.251.84.153]) by EXT-SMTP-01.partners.extranet.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:30:05 -0700
>Received: from mail pickup service by tksdspsmtcss02.partners.extranet.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:30:02 -0700
>X-Message-Info: w8GDWAoULp2eNfnC+hkmzvx4jcDwUtbENlYvPE080E0vaMbo+XLAhw==
>Thread-Topic: RE: CST190160800ID - RE:MSN Spaces Abuse: Report Abuse or offensive: : sissy5211@hotmail.com:
>X-Mailer: Microsoft CSS 2000
>X-CSSTicketID: 190160800
>thread-index: AcU9lrnbQcelgM6mTIC6fN+NXB4fqQ==
>Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
>Priority: normal
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2005 06:30:02.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9E94B30:01C53D96]
>Return-Path: support_x_EN_SY@css.one.microsoft.com
>
>Hello Renee,
>
>
>Look I can make this email say anything I want it too. See how easy it is???
>
>It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out!!!!!


 


 


 


I also want to point that the member who posted this is actually confirming that the email GinaH poasted could just have easily been a fake as well.  All the more reason to keep the email you recieved from MSN pits.  That way, you always have the concrete proof with headers and it can be forwarded to anyone with an email address.   - Ansy



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The post on TP is gone!


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lol yes the difference is what they posted is a header the header from my confirmation that is what a header looks like and never once was there ever a header posted by them!


 



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why is it when I see that post about the email being a fake I just wanna sing lalayla? It just cries out.


edited for "spelling"  --protodog



-- Edited by protodog at 23:07, 2005-04-10

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It is really too bad that they will not be fair about this issue. They had no problem with GinaH's email being there. In fact, it is still there, but information to rebut that email has been deleted.


Again, they have proven what I have been saying about them all along. Their forum is so one-sided, it is scary!!



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That forum is creepy, for sure.

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I KNEW IT ALL ALONG!


Just as I knew TP mods were going to get their just deserts for banning me a long time ago.  My how the tables have indeed turned.


HAHA!


I knew she was lying but no one wanted to hear the truth. I kept asking for the header. I kept saying well if you deleted it how did you manage to keep the text of the email? It made absolutely no sense.


The entire episode was a plan to bring Pits and Ansy down muddy dramatic waters and to keep mess going.


I am pretty certain some if not all of the Mods put Gina up to it.  The conspiracy theory rises its ugly head yet again.


Talk about bored. If they didnt want Pits anymore just ban her already and be done with it.  The entire charade was fruitless.


Jawlaw: As for Lala, I have yet to see her post anything of particular usefulness or relevance.  One wonders if those two (Lalayla and Pearl) are one and the same. I mean they are sooo far from reality and their posts state as much.  What planet are they on?


I mean does Lala/Pearl really believe by cutting and posting Pits' header we would believe she was able to recreate the header?  I mean after a while the shenanigans are getting a little ridiculous. I mean I wouldn't want to be affiliated with a forum that had members that actually thought I was THAT stupid. I mean really.


I AM NOT SURPRISED. Gina should be ashamed as should everyone involved with the silly caper.


What a waste of time and effort.


Those who don't believe it was a fake won't ever, Pits.  They are easily duped.  It is sad actually.


Oh well. What can you do?


Like Dorothy Norwood always says: Pray about it.


 edited for name calling twice--I missed something the first time  --protodog


 


 



-- Edited by protodog at 11:13, 2005-04-11

-- Edited by protodog at 22:45, 2005-04-11

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Ty, not to knock Norwood, I say forget about it is better...

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I've been trying to stay out of this as it is between the two people involved in the situation....it dosen't have anything to do with this forum or that forurm or any forum in between. 


JUST LET IT GO, AND DEAL WITH IT BETWEEN YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm really getting sick of all of this.  I don't care what gets said here or there...it is just making both forums look bad.



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