Kula only barks when someone comes to the door, or when someone goes by our fence (we live on the corner). He doesn't growl, or snarl or anything...he just wants to say Hi and ask folks to play! When we walk, if another dog barks at him from their yard, he doesn't make a peep. I know I really don't like it when dogs run up and down the fence barking when I walk by, so I HATE when Kula does it to other people, but it is HIS yard.
He really doesn't stop the barking if you tell him no, and his attention really can't be redirected when he's doing this, so I'm thinking that my only option is somthing like a citronella collar. I would only put it on him when he went out in the yard...my problem with it is that I don't want him to get squirted when he's just playing around with Marley, growling and yelping. That just seems really unkind...he should be able to do that when he's playing.
The other option, I guess, would be a shock collar, so I have control of when he's corrected...I just don't know if I really like the idea of that.
SO...do I go with some type of a collar, or do I just resign myself to the fact that he's going to bark at the fence and folks on the sidewalk need to suck it up? What do you guys think?
I have a much bigger dog who does the exact same thing. If we are going to be gone all day, then we put Koda bark collar on because I have been told by my neighbors he tends to not let up sometimes. He knows what it is, if you get a bark collar or a citronella, make sure you train them and not just let them go on it. It will scare them, not really hurt them but scare them if you don't teach them that they need to be quiet with it on. They will get shocked or sprayed a few times before they get it but they always get it. Now all I have to do is tell Koda quiet or I'll get the collar and he is quiet. He is not scared of the collar though as he lets me put it on him easily. It was a good investment for us, plus Marley will learn that since Kula is not barking that she is not supposed to either.
I know what you are going thru as I went thru the same thing with Farley & Chloe. We live in the last house on a dead-end road with only 5 houses on the entire road so we get very little vehicle traffic and alot less people walking.
Until they had a reliable "come" when they would be outside barking at a car or person going by I'd go out with the penny bottle and have them come inside - they knew when they saw the penny bottle they had better get inside cuz they were doing something they weren't supposed to. Once they mastered "come" as soon as they start barking (not when they are just playing with each other) I tell them "no bark" & if they don't stop I immediately call them inside. They have gotten alot better now and only bark when it is a vehicle or person who isn't a "regular". I don't mind if they bark when there is a stranger as I do live alone and like to know if there is someone around but I do expect them to stop when I tell them to. It has been slow but I continually see improvement.
I did get one of those electronic units that plug in that emit a sound they can hear for when they would start barking inside. It worked pretty good for that until they realized they could go to the window at the other end of the house & bark and they wouldn't hear the unit. They aren't as bad in the house though and only bark when someone actually pulls into our driveway or is on our sidewalk. So for that if they don't stop when I tell them to all I have to do i pick up the penny bottle.
I didn't go with a barking collar or citronella collar either for the same reasons you stated as Farley is quite vocal when he is playing with Chloe and I didn't want him to be "punished" for that. And personally I would reserve using a shock collar for correction for serious situations only that aren't solveable by other means.
My brother, for his dog, got a citronella collar that had a remote, so the spray only went off when he hit the button. He didn't want her to get punished for appropriate barking. He taught her "quiet," and if she doesn't respond to the "quiet" command, he hits the button, but if she does respond to the command, she gets a "good dog." Ultimately, the punishment is for not obeying "quiet," rather than for barking. My brother is very pleased with the collar (and now, the dog).
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i think its fairly normal for dogs to bark at passer-bys. mine do. but they only do it for a minute. its not really annoying during the daytime. im outside when my frenchies are, but our gsd can be out alone. he barks at people walking by, but not for long.if he is persistant, i open the door and tell him to quit and he does. whats annoying is people that leave their dogs out all night and they bark non-stop.
He's not out all day at all....just for spurts here and there throughout the day, and NEVER when we're not here, so it's not like he's barking all day.
I had the same thought about Marley, Katz. She can be pretty vocal anyway, so I don't want her picking up any bad habits.
The citronella collar with the remote sounds like a great idea, but I do want to try positive methods first. All of these suggestions are great...I'm getting some really good info from a couple of different forums, so maybe we can lick this after all!