Ok remember a while back my dobe Rusty was peeing blood? And I took him to the vet and the vet was unsure what was wrong with him? Now here is the thing... he only got an attack if he ate a full bowl of food so we cut his feedings to three a day and smaller portions. and we thought it was his pancreas. But the vet recently said that his prostate was inflamed. the vet did a rectal exam and i swear i never seen a dog in so much pain then he bleed twice as much. The vet gave him two shots. one of an antibiotic and one of an anti inflamitory. then antibiotic pills. they worked and it came back again. this time it subsided after a day and went away. now its back again three weeks later. What in the world do i do?
My hubby finally agreed to break down and get him snipped but until he is better we don't want to risk the surgery. Is there anything i can do holistic wise that might help? Nothing the vets are doing is lasting long and each time the medication is necessary it is harder to get it to help if at all. so far he is still eating and drinking and and another question what is the most inexpensive bland diet i can feed him?
Lastly, hubby just said he fed him a full bowl of food just before the onset of this attack as well can a over full belly or a full belly aggrivate an already tender prostate in a dog? I know that a fatty diet can cause a pancreas attack.
pleas anyone who can help my boy is in lots of pain here.
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There are two things to think about when bleeding occurs from the penis. The first is an injury to the penis or some other part of the urinary tract leading to the hemorrhage. The second is a bleeding disorder that is affecting the entire dog but showing up as bleeding from the penis. It is important to note that occasional instances of small amounts of bleeding from the penis (several drops but enough to be noticeable) are not highly unusual in intact male dogs and often do not seem to cause any significant problems. This is especially true when they are aware of a female in heat but not able to breed with her. It sounds like you are seeing more bleeding than this, though.
The most common problem leading to bleeding in intact male dogs is almost certainly prostate disease. The prostate can be palpated in dogs by rectal palpation and if the prostate is greatly enlarged it would increase the likelihood of prostatic problems as the cause of the observed bleeding. The antibiotics are a good choice in this case. Prostate infections are often poorly responsive to antibiotics and they must be used for long periods of time in some dogs to get control of the infections --- it is not unusual to have to use antibiotics for 6 to 8 weeks. Prostate hypertrophy in the absence of infection also occurs and can lead to bleeding from the penis. I think that this is probably the major reason that we see occasional bleeding episodes in some male dogs who never really seem to be ill from the problem. This is especially true of young male dogs who are sexually frustrated by the presence of a female in heat.
Injuries to the penis are not too unusual in dogs that have learned to masturbate in response to sexual frustration. It is a good idea to examine the penis for signs of injury whenever bleeding is seen. We have also seen injuries to the prepuce that were difficult to locate, including one dog who had managed to fun over a stick in just the right path to push it several inches into his sheath, where it caused a great deal of hemorrhage but was not visible.
Bleeding disorders are not especially common in dogs but German shepherds are one of the breeds that is prone to these problems, since there is a higher than usual rate of hemophilia in GSDs. Checking for a bleeding disorder with a coagulation profile or bleeding time tests would be reasonable.
It does help to have access to an ultrasound machine when the prostate is suspected to be the problem but it is reasonable to just treat for the problems that can be treated for and hope for the best when access to this type of testing is limited.
Good luck with this.
Mike Richards, DVM 3/10/2001
A: Prostatitis is usually treated with antibiotics. It is generally from a bacterial infection of the prostate gland leading to inflammation. This causes pain when urinating and may cause lameness or stiffness in the rear legs. It can be a serious illness, sometimes leading to septicemia (blood borne infection). It is best to treat with an antibiotic that has been chosen based on a culture of the prostatic fluid but veterinarians often choose an antibiotic based on the likelihood it will work for prostate infection since culture and sensitivity takes a few days to get results from and adds to the expense of treating the condition. If the antibiotic doesn't seem to be working it is best to insist on a culture, though. Neutering probably doesn't help much with acute prostatitis but it may be helpful if chronic prostatitis is present and it definitely helps if there is benign hypertrophy of the prostate. The latter condition is more common as dogs get older and would be unusual in a young dog. In some instances prostate infections abscess. This is much more serious, does respond best to surgical drainage and is at least a pressing problem, if not an outright emergency. Castration is a good idea when treating prostatic abscesses but the abscess must still be treated properly as it will not go away with castration alone.
While I haven't seen much mention of it in the medical texts, I really think that prolonged exposure to females in heat, especially when mating does not occur, can lead to painful enlargement of the prostate that really isn't an infection. Just inflammation. This does seem to respond to castration or to limiting exposure to females in heat.
For rectal bleeding due to hemmoroid, or ulcerative conditions in humans, I would use aloe vera juice or gel, taken internally. While I have seen things that named aloe toxic to dogs, I have given it in limited amounts on occasion and it only seemed to help. Generally, it heals bleeding in the digestive tract, I don't know if this would extend to the prostate... This company markets aloe for pets, I doubt that would be done if it was toxic.... http://www.wellvet.com/aloe.html There is a long term usage concern...http://www.aloe-vera-studies.org/index-3.html I have also taken powdered witch hazel for bleeding which was more severe. http://www.viable-herbal.com/singles/herbs/s581.htm I would say that the anti inflammatory properties of slippery elm bark would be good, but again I am not sure if it will treat the prostate, it does treat appendicitis and other inflammatory conditions, such as sore throat. http://www.florahealth.com/Flora/Home/canada/healthinformation/encyclopedias/slipperyelmbark.asp
I always recommend Nutro Ultra kibble, because of the strong acidophilus suppliments that it contains, it keeps the animal from fighting bacteria along with all the other problems he is fighting.
After Farley had his emergency surgery for bloat/torsion the vet wanted him on a bland diet and said to use lean hamburg & white rice for 2-3 weeks. Of course, Farley loved it and wasn't real thrilled to go back to his kibble afterwards.
ER vet last night said huge prostate biggest she ever seen. she gave shots and said snipping is the only way to stop this.... she would not give me the pills though as i was short on cash so any suggestions how to keep this down until i can get him snipped next week?
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