Question for Everyone

Acey · 3:11 PM, 03/22/05

RE: Question for Everyone

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

Forgetting and moving on is really hard when TP mods are constantly bringing it back up. Atomicdog was NOT jawlaw. She was accused though. Other members that came in new that voiced their opinions and dared to disagree with the moderators of the "well respected members" Were also accused of being jawlaw. The point is it is not always jawlaw or ansy or me. The point is they can think that all they want but posting their suspicions on the forum like that without proof and flat out lieing when they know it is not them to me is THEM not letting it end. You cannot just go around making false accusations and not have someone your accusing be upset and want to defend themselves.

What purpose does it serve to publicly post "I just figured it out its JAWLAW" except to badh jawlaws name to anyone who can read it. Making everyone who reads it think well I don't want to touch the furum because that jawlaw is not there. THATS the purpose! Because TP knows that every member they attack and beat on and then bann comes here because they do not get treated that way. And usually a few more come here right behind the recently wounded member. So if they make Ansy and Jawlaw look bad then people will second guess coming here.

As for the set up issue. I firmly believe crickets biggest gripe with me is that I questioned her in regards to jawlaw. She used the fight between me and GinaH to start it off but she focused her wrath on me defending jawlaw that she was not atomicdog. I really do believe I was logged into that forum to make me look like I was "just like all the rest" as they put it. I had a lot of support there and you know that. Every post made in my defense was deleted. Atomicdog was banned for sticking up for me plain and simple. I don't know about anyone else here but I definatly have a grudge. I would have never signed on as frank had they not logged my screen name on! That ticked me off. They could have just let it be they could have just left the banning stand and gone on BUT NO! Time heals all wounds they say and anger fades. But when you keep reopening old wounds what do you espect?

Acey · 3:46 PM, 03/22/05

Pits, I understand what you are saying, but everyone here cannot have a "poor me" attitude. You mentioned Ansy and Jawlaw getting blamed for everything...but why do they get blamed? Because people are used to them coming on the board with fake names. If I came on the furum occasionally under fake names and then one day someone else came on here with a fake name, I would definately cross the minds of several people as being the person with the fake name. Does that make sense? So thats how it works over on tp.

How come MY user name was created on this board and I was NOT the person who created it? It was someone on this board. It was to stir up trouble. I do not cause problems on either board. I dont care enough to. So WHY was my name created by someone on this board??? I never did anything to them. Tell me that, pits. I understand you wanting to stick up for the people here, but truth is, no one is completely innocent in any of this.

-- Edited by Acey at 15:48, 2005-03-22

ADMIN ANSY · Site Admin

Thats a great post Acey! An exact copy should be posted on TP, if you haven't already. Afterall, we aren't the only ones involved here. We've all admitted our wrong-doing (those of us that have done it). Jawlaw admitted to those names and apologized. I admitted to what I did. We are done now. Did it kill you because we decided to let it go? Did you want to keep it stirred up? Coming over here and making this look one sided is not a way to get things straightened out. This is not a one sided issue. Both parties, people from both forums are at fault. Yet, I see only one admitting it and apologizing.

We've done our part - good and bad. We said we were finished - let it go. If need be, I will make this forum viewable only to its members. We have agreed to not visit/read/post on TP and I expect no less from them. Lalayla freely reads this site every day and goes back to chat and spreads the gossip. I can stop that pony in its tracks....and I will, if it continues.

You are welcome to post here, but you will not turn this into a one sided issue. I'm not going to allow that to happen to the innocent members who post here.

Acey · 3:51 PM, 03/22/05

Ansy, I did not say it was the fault of members of one board only. We've all been involved with this and the trouble has been stirred by both sides. I dont think anyone would deny that and i certainly haven't.

ADMIN ANSY · Site Admin

Thank you for acknoweledging that.

It just gets old when we are the only ones asked to 'back off'.

-- Edited by ADMIN ANSY at 15:56, 2005-03-22

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

Acey you and I never had issues and I do not want there to be any now. All I can tell you is you'll never understand until it happen to you and I hope it never does. Do you not understand what is going on here?

No one had a problem with me until they realized I did not take any crap and stuck up for myself. No one had a problem with colliemom until she called them on their ignorance to me in chat. No one had a problem with jessica until last night and she is not even taking sides. Atomic dog was not banned until he stuck up for me. I was not banned until I questioned minniyar and cricket. Minniyar never even got to see the post because cricket edited it. Anytime a new member comes in with any backbone they are banned and accused of being jawlaw. They even think I am jawlaw now.

Did it ever occure to you that it is the MODERATORS that are causing the problems? Did it ever once occure to you that they way people are treated by the moderators is what starts all this?

No offense but how many people disagree with my banning and how many agree? Even minniyar said she felt the banning was not necessary. They would have never heard from me again had they not pressed the issue. I left peacefully and did not return until I was provoked.

As for reading the posts there well there are a good number of members there who I like and I respect that post good information. THAT is why I read them. But you can be sure that if I see any garbage about me I will not sit back and not defend myself.

There was a member the other night that posted about a pitbull in need of help. Someone recomended reaching out to me for help. The next reply was that I was banned. How about no longer a member? Wouldn't that do just fine? And when colliemom posted to the man about my contact info if he wanted to reach me it was deleted. Pure ignorance. Lets nto put the dogs first but rather our own need to controll. I am not even going to continue because sometimes people just do not get it until they have felt it. I really hope younever do but as long as you kiss their butts you never will. Just don't dare get a mind of your own or you'll be in the same class as us.

oasis05 · Moderator

Ok, i'm putting in my 2 cents again. As for the joke the other night with ansy playing someone else. I was totally oblivious that that was her. I saw no problem with her pretending she was someone else because what if it wasn't her and some kid was really saying those things? There was some good answers on that chat and people brought up points i had forgotten to mention to the fake person. I thought it was actually educational. Any way, here's what i have to say about all this..........

What other forum?

jawlaw · Moderator

I just realized that I have been signed on all night, but I have not been here. Just got back and got caught up on the posts...

P&D- I am also sorry about the things that have happened with you. I will definitely be praying for you, Ansy and family.

As far as what Acey said- I am really not sure why she is over here...hmmm, but all I know is that all of us have admitting to doing some wrong and no one from over there (the mods- who have done a lot wrong) have admitted anything... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

But I am TPF (TP Free) and taking one day at a time....lol

protodog · Forum Moderator

Cliches are true. The best revenge is living well. If you really want to get back at somebody on another forum, the best way to do so is to make this forum the one that everyone wants to join. Make this forum the most friendly, the most fun, the most interesting. And if you don't have problems with anyone on another forum, well, you'll enjoy a friendly, fun, interesting forum, too. Everybody here wins.

ADMIN ANSY · Site Admin

Proto - if you were a man......I'd marry you! I simply love your outlook on life and your advice is always well informed and trusted. I cannot espress enough how grateful I am to you for moderating this forum and all of it's tantrums......lol......including mine.

jawlaw · Moderator

I agree- thanks for being such a great mod! We love you! Thank you to you, too Ansy!

oasis05 · Moderator

What other forum?

GinaH · 10:39 PM, 03/22/05

Ansy I had no idea what happened with you or Jawlaw when you were banned from TP I was in the midst of my own problems with another member (Aisha) who at the time was very friendly with the Mods. Anyhow my problems/disagreements with Aisha made me a target so therefore anytime I posted anything I was spoken to rudely I got sick of it so when HarleyGirl and MLS2004 two very controversial members who I happened to like and were also banned posted a thread with a link to Next day pets (a site who ADMIN accused of copying TP.)

One of the few times I would like to mention I ever saw ADMIN reply was when he commanded his loyal followers to go to Next Day Pets and disrupt their forum. It just so happens that I had just became a member there and boy was I bashed! Members of TP (I won't name any names) a couple whom are mods at TP now made fake user names and posted some very ugly things directed towards me and other members as well as just nonsense posts. So I know how vicious it can get over there. As all of you know I have had major disagreements with P&D but not once were they because I was following someone else. Because frankly I could care less who likes me and who doesn't. I just happen to have very strong beliefs a great love for dogs and a BIG MOUTH!

Ansy I am very sorry to hear about your recent loss I can't imagine how anyone could make jokes about something so tragic. My thoughts and prayers will be with you.

DobesandPits I will not apologize for my beliefs or for any disagreements between the two of us but I do however apologize for any personal attacks. I hope the best for you and I truly am sorry to hear about your son. I have three sons and I can't imagine what I would do or how I would feel if I were to lose one of them.

** I truly had a point to this post but it seems to have gotten lost I hope it makes some kind of sense.**

-- Edited by GinaH at 22:42, 2005-03-22

Dallasgoldens · MAD DOG!

i think it is about the unjust way many of yes were banned. With no cause and no explanation.