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Ansy


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When growing up as a child I remember (at least I think I do) always seeing Poodles whose coats looked like the tightest, curliest, worst perm you could get kind of curls.  They were sooooo tight (the curls) and I thought they were hideous.  Now, I see your dogs who have these beautiful coats that are not at all 'curly' like I remember, yet beautifully wavy and soft looking.  The poodles I remember as a child had fro's from h3ll!


Is my memory playing tricks on me or has the poodles coat changed or something?  They are just such beautiful dogs now.  Nothing like I remember.


I am envious to both of you for having such beautiful dogs!!!



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LOL- Hershey has the "fro" and I hate it. I can't find a groomer that knows what to do with it. I was going to print one of their beautiful dogs pictures so my groomer could see it, but I didn't want to use up all of my ink!! lol


He looks horrible and I don't know what to do about it.


One of them told me they use scissors to get that look, but I don't understand...waaaa, waaa



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puttin said something in another thread about blowing their coat out.

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Yes, it is the brushing out that relaxes the curls.  Altho I keep Farley & Chloe in a shorter clip than most do when they come home from the groomer they are very soft and the tighter curls are gone.  Over the course of time the curls will return if I don't brush them and again being short it isn't quite as noticeable as on longer clips.  If they get wet & I don't brush them the curls are very tight.  When poodles are pups their hair is much softer & has more of a wave or soft curl.  As they get older their hair does turn to a harder, courser "feel" and the curls start setting in. 

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Ansy, Denise nailed it. They are made straight when they are groomed. We use a high power dryer (called a blaster) to get most of the water out of them when drying (about 90%). We then use a low power stand dryer with low heat (called a fluff dryer) and brush them out thoroughly with a slicker brush or pin brush. That is the reason it takes about 4 hrs. (if you know what you are doing) to groom a Standard Poodle in a longer coat. Full show coat on an adult can take even longer.


We keep all of our non-showing dogs in a pet or sport trim which is like the two in Denises avatar. Tight now we only have one toy in show puppy cut at home, and one in show puppy cut with a handler.



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Denise and Gto has said it well. When I was growing up we had a cockerpoo and he has crazy curls. We did not have alot of money, nor did I know what to do with a poo coat. I would cut his hair with scizzors. No blow drier. I have one picture of him and its an embarrassment. LOL  He was first poodle anything to clip. LOL With the scizzoring its sometimes to shape the whole body when making all those interesting shapes for shows or not. But also to smooth out the edges. So much involved. Jawlaw, you had better not go away from this site, I think you're a sweetie.  I say once you give you dog a bath get out your blow drier try to attatch it to something, a wire hanger something like that, I did it before so you can have two hands free.  It wil make the coat look all fluffy. If your groomer does not know what to do move on to another groomer.


My aunt used to groom her poodles and their coat was fluffy and not the tight curls too. So she probably blow dried too.


Thanks for the compliments, we love hearing it because it does take some time to do all of it.



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4 hours????? OMG!


Doesn't the dog ever give you the look of "Drop dead please!  Im tired of standing here?"  I don't know who would cave first, me or the dog.  I had no idea it took that long.  WOW.


While we are talking about poodles, someone posted in another thread that 2 white parents produced an all black litter.  How can that be?  Can a recessive trait affect every single pup in a litter?


Aslo, if Poodles were originally bred for retrieving then why are they so intelligent?  Was that bred into them as well?  Or just happened?  I wonder because the other retrievers are not close to the Poodle on the intelligence list and I dont understand why dogs who were bred for the same reasons wouldn't share a common intelligence?



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Ansy. Black is dominnant to white. I do not know what color dad was.
In Labs,yellow bitch, blk dad, may get you both colors, or only black, if the dad carries no yellow gene
What dog has ever said Oh you have played with my hair for 4 hours and I want you to stop. Crap, Ansy, you can play with MY hair for that long and I would LOVE it, so I'm not sure the dog is tortured...

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Properly bred retrievers are all intelligent. Regardless of breed.

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http://www.petrix.com/dogint/ has Poodles listed as # 2 in intelligence and Labs as #7, but I couldn't even find Goldens on the list.  Then I go to http://tigerx.com/trivia/smartdogs.htm where all three are listed in the top 10.   THEN I go to http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/toptens/dogs/dogsFULL.html and fine all three in the top 10 again, but the Poodle is 6th, the Golden is 2nd and the Lab is 1st!


I guess its hard to determine something like this, but is there an 'official' standing somewhere?   Just curious.  I guess the important thing is that on 2 of the 3 sites I went to, all 3 were in the top 10, which (you are right Kitty), makes them all pretty darn intelligent.


This may be a stupid question, but remember....Im not a breeder.........is intelligence a trait you can selectively pass on when breeding?  If you see an intelligent dog and breed it, will the pups likely be just as intelligent?


 



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I'm no pro at this sort of thing. But I do beleive that the poodle is very smart. But I can't say its the smartest. I know the border collie and ausie's to be extremely smart. Terriers too. And GSD. Whichever you own, more than likely you will say its the smartest breed on earth.  With breeding, if you got good genes, brains included, it will be passed on to the pups.

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