We all will have disagreements at times, but I have to be able to trust the judgment of the moderators here or else this forum has no backbone

Then I feel for you ansy…if this much trusts is placed in this person. She isn’t the best representation of your backbone. Now …the other ladies are just fine. I have not seen a snotty post or any inflammatory behavior by them…Just this one. Hummm I wonder why that is…???

If you really like this forum and want to stay here, then just steer clear of jawlaw and this should not be a problem.  If it continues, and you feel it is unfair, then yes, I want to know about it, but this is the first and only complaint I have had on jawlaw and it happens to be from someone who didn't like her even before this happened.  You have to try and look at it from my point of view as well

Why steer clear of any one…that’s not fair. I had no issues with that person until I was again…in chat. And you were there that time Ansy.and I was berated and bashed and you sent me a whisper of sympathy for getting heck for chatting. Or don’t you remember that one. I never had issues with any one. I take each day as it comes. Not a hold over from any other day and who said I didn’t like Jaw law. Because I don’t do well with a bull dog in my face making me defend why I’m here and am I a spy. Or you’re the troublemaker here…I don’t hate any one. Kind of isn’t in my vocabulary. But what I don’t like is injustice. Is P&D the only one who can speak on injustice??? I saw it here before. . And here tonight.it is sad…I never went back and forth on these boards and told stuff I just kept what was here here…So. Why am I singles out?

However, that is not the point, Huron was welcome to come in there with us but not the way she went about it.

I was not welcomed.I said Hello. And then I had a barrage of things flung at me. I could not defend my self fast enough. And then I was banned…simple as that…so. How should I have gone about it? I was nice. I could have not gone there. But why do I have to stay away. It isn’t your private chat arena. I am supposedly welcomed to come and chat. And I NEVER BREAK THE RULES>>>>>I admit saying that your both the biggest troblemakers.but I was called one first and I would have not said any thing unless provoked. I don’t come to chats to go crazy …I can have arguments at home where they mean some thing…so. I would like to know why it was a preconceived notion that I was coming in to cause trouble..? I didn’t get past hello and Hi. .and then the whisper came..and I said. Is that mean for me or p&D…and all heck broke loose…Please some one tell me what I did wrong????

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Originally posted by: Ansy
"~~...I just want everyone to see what REALLY happens on this site..Obviously Ansy needs to look and listen too.~~   I look and listen every single day.  Do you ever stop to think about what my PM box looks like when I log in each time?  Or my email?  This one don't like that one and that one don't like this one.  If everyone got their way, half the members here would be banned already.  I want to know if there is a problem, but I can't always correct it the way people would like for me to.  I cannot make 70+ people all happy at the same time.  One of the rules of this forum is to 'defend yourself when necessary'.  You don't have to defend yourself every time you come here.  You are defending yourself to the person you don't get along with, not to the rest of us.  None of us were there, none of us seen it so you don't have to defend yourself to us. There are going to be times when things go wrong here and people made bad decisions.  It's just going to happen, but what matters is how you handle it. You know, when I banned pitsanddobes, she could have gotten terribly angry with me because she was banned from the forum and it was unjustified.  I would have been very angry at me if I were in her shoes that night.  When I went into chat, she never said a harsh word to me.  She told me what she had to say and we all discussed it and it was over.  I made a  wrong decision.....I am human.......she politely informed me of the details and I corrected it as best I could.  Why can't we all handle it this way? As a side note, I see you entering a room with jawlaw and pits about like me entering a room with CM and lalayla.   I'm not justifying it, but WHY would you  go into a room with only the two of them there anyway?  Especially knowing it could turn into a he said/she said event?  Because thats what has happened. When problems arise, I try to look for a common denominator.   Right now, you are the only complaint I have had on jawlaw.......she is not a common denominator in the problems here.  If she were, others would have already said something by now. Huron, as much as some of us enjoy having you here, maybe this isn't the forum for you.  I don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable here, but I don't know of any way to make it right with you.  My suggestion is for the 2 of you to totally ignore each other on the forum and not go into chat when its only jawlaw in there.  You wouldn't want to have a conversation with someone you dont like anyway."

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Ansy:

I totally agree. Makes sense to me.

I wouldn't worry about it. 

Bottom line, Huron knew Jawlaw was in the chat room before she entered.  Words were exchanged and she got booted/banned for an hour.  She no longer could bicker about the situation and I guess it upset her because she no longer had control.  What is there to decipher? If you don't like someone avoid them. Why would she go in the  chat if only Jawlaw was there?  You know you don't like this person.  An issue could arise and it will your word against their's.  Why wouldn't you AVOID this?

All the rants and posting although I can appreciate Huron is upset: noone else is.  Neither Jawlaw or P&D seem to give a rat' arse about this.  Neither one of them seems upset but Huron continues to flame them and neither has really responded as if they care.  So that would make twice Huron has been ignored and not taken seriously.  Perhaps that is what this is about.

I suspect Huron may have been on the attack and wanted to bicker and Jawlaw wasn't interested and just booted her. The issue is can you be booted if someone doesn't want to hear what you have to say?  Inflammatory or not?

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Originally posted by: Ansy
"To answer your question tyson - no.  The first rule listed under the chat rules is: Chat moderators agree to give everyone equal participation rights in the chat room.  This means that personal feelings cannot be a factor in kicking someone from the room.  Now, it comes down to who called who the 'trouble maker' first (which set the other off).  There was only one witness there.  Since no one else was there, I have to go with what the 'witness' said happened.  Regardless of what really happened, in the end, I beleive jawlaw has apologized to huron and we should all just move on.  I hope huron can agree to do the same. You brought up a very good point in your last post.  I'm glad to have your brain around.  I would have never viewed it that way.  "

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Can we drop this you guys...Everyone has explained themselves and I dont think there is anything else for people to say...this is turning into one of those never ending threads. Lets just move on. Emotions have been running high lately and this post is just adding to it. Jaw is a mod and mods make mistakes too, im not saying she did anything wrong or for that matter right(I wasnt there), but she has explained herself, Huron has explained how she feels and so has everyone else. I just want to see this forum talking about pets agian.

I love everyone here and I wish we could all just get along.