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ADDITION TO FORUM RULES - PLEASE READ!


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-- Edited by Ansy at 22:20, 2005-05-17

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RE: New forum rules in place tonight


Addendum to forum rules (effective 05/18/05). 


This will also be placed in the Rules thread at the top of the page.


**Any member of this forum will be banned immediately if they are found conducting behavior on another forum or website which defames, slurs, or places The Furum in a negative manner.  You can do this all you like, but will not do it and be a member here. If you dis-like The Furum bad enough to trash it elsewhere, then you do not need to be here.  If you still wish to participate in this type of behavior, then please use an assumed name or take it to a chat room (other than ours) and do it there where I will not see it.  I have spoken with the owners of several different forums over the last month, from pet forums to car forums and even the FOX and CBS forums and they all handle this the same way or at lease similar.  I'm not going to continue to watch people join here for the sole reason of playing nice here and then trashing this place elsewhere.  If you have an issue with The Furum it needs to be taken up here, not on other sites.  This is not to say that you can't dis-agree with comments you see here and post about it elsewhere.  I am talking about direct attacks on The Furum.  This includes statements that refer to our members as a whole.  Saying that 'they are all this' or 'they are all that' is also stating that The Furum is 'all this' or 'all that' because this forum is represented by its members.  I think the most of you can understand what I am talking about.   If you are one of the few who like to trash this forum on other places though, then please think before you type next time.  If you have aproblem with someone, address it with the specific person, and not the forum as a while.  If you post about how badly things are run here, then you need to post it here.  Again, that is defaming The Furum when you post it on different sites and it will get you banned. Any problems with The Furum should be addressed here.


 


**TerrificPets Issues: In the coming days there will be a new folder created on the Talk City Forum.  This folder will be just like the other and you can access it by request only.  This prevents those from TerrificPets who are not members here from reading the issues and running back to their board with them. New members who sign up will not have the option of accessing this folder until I decide otherwise.  This is to prevent those members from TerrificPets from registering under assumed names and gaining access to the folder for purposes other than to try and discuss issues that are bothering them.  This also allows The Furum to be more family friendly by keeping these posts off of our main board. It also allows those who do not like the TP issues from  having to see them if they don't want to.


If you are found to be accusing one of our members of spamming/joining/posting on TerrificPets or any other site without sufficient evidence, then you will be banned.  I am really tired of all the accusations flying around here.  If you accuse, make sure you have the proof to back up your claim.


**Banning Procedures: You must all understand that I cannot ban anyone who does not break a rule here.  No matter what name they use, what lie they tell, or what story they fabricate......if it does not break a rule, I cannot ban them.  An example from today is that I cannot ban someone for claiming to own a dog that they do not own.  That does not break a forum rule.


**New Members: I am requesting that all new members be treated with respect.  If a new member seems 'fishy' then politely ask them your questions and explain why you are asking.  Some of you have been very good about this but a few have been down right nasty, to the point that it was just uncalled for.  We are not here to police what others do in their real lives.  We are here to chat, have fun, and get information. If a new member happens to have the same or similar name as someone we know - I can't help that.  Unregistered names are fair game and anyone can use them.  As long as that person does not try to impersonate someone with that same name and does not break any rules then they are welcome here and I expect them to be treated so. Every forum has trolls. That is life.  But I won't allow an innocent member to be made to feel unwelcomed here because we may assume they are someone else. If they are not who they say they are then they will slip up - it always happens.  When/if they slip up, they will be dealt with.  Slipping up does not mean you lied about what kind of dog you have.  It means that you have identified yourself to be someone that you are not and are here to cause trouble.


 


Unfortunately, these rules are in place because of less than a handful of members here.  Most of you already do the right thing and knew what lines you shouldn't cross without me ever having to say anything, but I wanted to clarify so that we can make this a better place. To sum it up.....Treat others with respect (as already stated in the rules), don't accuse, place all TP posts in the TP folder once it is up, and lastly - if you don't like this forum then don't come here.  The rules are really not that hard to follow.


I am not a mean person.  If you feel something isn't right then email or PM me.  I get some really polite PM's each day from people who just have questions.  I am always happy to answer them.  I too, have areas that I still need to work on.  Even I accused our newest member of being a trouble maker.  Thats why these rules are here now - in case anyone needs to see it in black and white.  There is so much untrustworthy stuff happening recently that sometimes you never know what to think.  When that happens, just stick to the people and threads that you know.  Everything else will sort itself out.  Just because you don't see me here and just because I may not think the same way that you do does not mean that I'm not checking things out.  If it takes me a few days or a week to figure out a troll before I ban them then so be it.  I'd rather know I took my time on finding them out than banning an innocent person too soon.


Thanks for your understanding.



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RE: ADDITION TO FORUM RULES - PLEASE READ!


THANK YOU!!


It's getting soooo old and annoying. I'm a member at TP and I'm tired of seeing posts about people on TF and about people on TP. ENOUGH ALREADY!! We have better things to do, now. Come on.



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Yes. Thank you. As usual, you are always fair and give a concise explanation of the rules that you expect to be followed and it is appreciated very much.

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WHAT in the world did I miss now???? I have been so busy preparing for a recent court case that I have not been on that much. (sorry chat buddies lol) someone please direct me to where I can be updated as to what this is all about cuz' hot dog if it isn't getting hot in here lol.  



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Oh my gosh! Where do we begin!


Anyone want to try and update Pits?


Look at the Rhonda posts...lol



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I am so confused about the whole deal...don't care...can't help.....lmbo....sorry...but good to see you p&d. 

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Don't bother to update it, it is all gobbledegook, and annoying.
I enjoy my imaginary buddies here. Role playing is neither new to me, nor something that offends me.
Ansy, that was concise, and insightful. Thank-you. I felt like a little dutch boy w/ my finger in a dam, this morning. This should take care of the problem(s)...

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Great job Ansy! 

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The TP folder is now available.  If you would like access to it then just PM me and I will grant you access this evening when I get home.  If possible, I will try to stop in around noon and see how things are going.


 


Thanks everyone!



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Ansy...I have a question...I must not be able to decipher the messge posted but i will ask it maybe im not alone in not understnding..Ok here goes.


You wrote:


**TerrificPets Issues: In the coming days there will be a new folder created on the Talk City Forum.  This folder will be just like the other and you can access it by request only.  This prevents those from TerrificPets who are not members here from reading the issues and running back to their board with them. New members who sign up will not have the option of accessing this folder until I decide otherwise.  This is to prevent those members from TerrificPets from registering under assumed names and gaining access to the folder for purposes other than to try and discuss issues that are bothering them.  This also allows The Furum to be more family friendly by keeping these posts off of our main board. It also allows those who do not like the TP issues from  having to see them if they don't want to.



 


If you are found to be accusing one of our members of spamming/joining/posting on TerrificPets or any other site without sufficient evidence, then you will be banned.  I am really tired of all the accusations flying around here.  If you accuse, make sure you have the proof to back up your claim.



I dont no..the talk city forum is the chat rooms right? Is the TP folder for if you want to repost tp thread quotes or what does this mean? I get that meaning from the fact that you say it keeps these issues off the main board..I just want to have full understanding on it. And as far as accusing one of our members of spamming/joining/posting on TerrificPets or any other site without sufficient evidence, what does this mean...the ones who come here and there under assumed names? Just trying to get clear meaning here. It would not be fair to bann only the ones who come here..it should include the ones who do it else where as well to be fair. Just trying to get full understanding..I know the rule update was long in coming...



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I am with MPP on this one. I think I stay confused most of the time.

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~~I dont no..the talk city forum is the chat rooms right? Is the TP folder for if you want to repost tp thread quotes or what does this mean? I get that meaning from the fact that you say it keeps these issues off the main board..I just want to have full understanding on it. And as far as accusing one of our members of spamming/joining/posting on TerrificPets or any other site without sufficient evidence, what does this mean...the ones who come here and there under assumed names? Just trying to get clear meaning here. It would not be fair to bann only the ones who come here..it should include the ones who do it else where as well to be fair. Just trying to get full understanding..I know the rule update was long in coming...~~


Huron, the TalkCity chat room is not the same as the Talk City Forum (which consists of different 'folders', each with its own topic).  If you click on CHAT at the top.......when you are taken to the chat page, scroll to the bottom and there will  be a folder there named NC17, TerrificPets Issues, Moderators (depending on what you have access to).  Those who have not requested access will only see something that says "Test Folder - Do Not Use".  You can't 'see' this forum unless you request permission to it.  I do this so that no one who does not want to read/post on it has to be tempted to open a thread when they don't really like these things.  Sometimes you can't tell by a thread name what is going to be inside of it.  This way, everyone knows before hand that they will be viewing more adult oriented material (NC17 folder) or the TerrificPets Issues (TerrificPets Issues folder).  By doing it this way, I expect that no one should whine/gripe/complain about the content in these folders because it is everyones own choice to visit them.  Once you get there, if you decide that either folder is just 'too much', then let me know and I can remove your access.  So far, the folders have not been very active, however, they are there if someone needs to use them......and yes, it is to keep these issues off of The Furums main board.


Regarding the accusations,  I can only ban Furum members.  How TerrificPets chooses to handle the people on their board that constantly accuse another of spamming is up to them.  As an example I'll use me and you.  If you were to go to TP and accuse me of spamming their board, that would constitute banning.  Why?  Because you don't know that it was me.  I have learned over time that usernames can be fake, emails can be fake, and many other things can be made to look like something they aren't.    In order to be fair to everyone, I won't take anyone's 'word' that something has occured.  I'll need to see it for myself.  If I had PM'd you and said that I was posting on TP then you'd have proof.  If I emailed you and said the same thing then that would not be proof as I have learned that emails can be made to look they came from anyone.  Last night a member showed that.  They sent me an email to admin@thefurum.com and it came from admin@thefurum.com.  This can be done without being traced.  I have researched it myself this evening and found that it is quite easy.  Given that people know how to do this, then I cannot accept emails as proof of anything.  Prety much either the person will have to admit it, post that they have done it (on this board or any other) or send someone a PM saying that they have done it.  I hate to take such extreme measures but it is the only way I can help cut back on the amount of accusations flying around here.  Sometimes accusations are right, but sometimes they are not.  Accusations only get people riled up and it disrupts the flow of this forum.  They can accuse all they want over there, because they are not members here....but for the ones who are members here - they will need to cease with accusing our own members of doing things even if its on another board.


Because of the dynamic of how these 2 forums parallel, this is just necessary to require this.  It will benefit all of our members here.


I hope this helps.  If you have any more questions, please let me know!



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  Wow, none of that stuff made sence to me-I guess If I dont understand it-then I dont need to try to go there !!  The TP Forum and this Furum are enough for me I guess anyways!  My fiance is already jealous of these two!!LOL

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The folders at talk city really confuse me....maybe it's just me, but i can't seem to figure them out, lol! But i'm trying!


Thanks for the new rules Ansy....they're great!



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I agree.  The Forum at Talk City is very confusing.  I don't like the way it is set up at all.  I am still trying to figure it all out.


If you have questions or need help, don't hesitate to ask.


For those who don't know - the way to post there is to be on the main chat page (the page you are taken to when you click on CHAT here).  You will see a link above the forum that says "Post New".  You click on that and it will let you post.  It will ask you which 'folder' you want to post in and you will choose between "NC17" and "TerrificPets Issues" if you have access to both.


You cannot post a new message while reading a thread.  You must be on the main page.


Life is complicated sometimes.....lol



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I totally figured it out............lol

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I'm pretty new here and I just wanted to say that the people that I have "spoken" with or replied to my posts seem very nice.


That's crazy how people can make an email look like it came from someplace else.  I am an Internet Technology major and I don't know how to do that, maybe I was out sick that day.  :)


Ansy, will you tell me how the member taught you that, just for general knowledge of course.  :)



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Ansy...thanks for the explanation. I guess it summed up for the most part what i was driving at. I dont think ill need the NC17 or the tp folders..if the talk city board is more complicated I would not be able to navigage it. Its got to be easy for me to be able to get around. As for the spaming and trolling..I guess what your saying if a member from here is caught doing things over on TP you wont do anythiing about it here? Am I right? We all know that is where many things stem from but I understand that there is only so much you can do about it. I for one think it should go both ways..but that is only me. I would hope that that will eventually stop and the dissing from that side would too..and thngs could even out...that would be ideal...But..we shall see how it all evolves...I think that you put lots of time and effort into the revisions and you did a good job...I know nothing is clear cut and easy...there is lots of varables...So..thanks for putting some thing into motion to make it better for all involved here.

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Huron, sorry I forgot to address that one part.


I can't control what other people do on other websites.  The reason Furum members will be banned if they post negatively about The Furum on other boards is not because I am trying to control what they do......it is because I want the members here to be genuine and respect the place they come to visit with others.  It's not the spamming that bothers me........if people want to do that - that is up to them......its the disrespect shown to The Furum.


If people want to post positively about The Furum on TP (which is considered spamming) then I don't have a problem with that.  Same goes for the other way around.  If people want to post positively here about TP then I have no problem with that either.


I'm sure I was unclear on how I worded that, and perhaps need to go back and change it. 


Even if I were to enforce spamming rules.......there is really no way that anything could be proven from either side.  Not unless someone admits to it....and that hardly happens...lol  You bring up an excellent point, there is just really no way to prove/enforce it.


The reason this seems one sided is because it is.  TP members do not come here and bash TP, however, we have Furum members who go there and bash The Furum.  That is what I want to see stopped.  Like I said, if someone feels the dire need to do it, then maybe they can use a different username over there so I wont know who they are.


Ironically, going to TP and bashing The Furum says more about the person posting it than it does about The Furum.    It makes people wonder why a member acts as if all is fine here, and then shows a dragons head elsewhere.


I don't think we'll have too many problems with it though.  It hasn't been a huge issue, but I wanted to add it in while I was doing the other new rules.


As long as everyone likes it here and understands that there will be things that happen from time to time that they don't agree with (as with on any forum), then there won't be any problems.  We have an open discussion policy here and any problems a member has are welcomed to bea ddressed here - public or private.



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