The Verdict is in!

MollieMae01 · Moderator

RE: The Verdict is in!

Kittys Mom · ~Best In Show~ Senior Board Member!

Hi, TNT.
Personally, I REALLY look forward to your posts...
I think that a whole lot of what you say is misconstued and distorted by others.
I agree with what you say for the most part.
Oh, and this Ray guy, I wonder if he even has a pet. I am queen of off-topic, but manage to talk dogs sooner or later. Yeah, I agree his avatar is disturbing. Reminds me of some of the stuff Watcher puts up.

dusty082155 · ~Best In Show~ Senior Board Member!

TNT, i was not offended by anything you said. everyone has their own opinions and they are not always going to be the same. actually i prefer talking with people that are straight up. i dont have to like or agree with them.but i know where they stand. raymond didnt come here to post an opinion as much as he did to harrass people. i also enjoy your posts. and yes raymonds avatar gave me the creeps. i avoided looking at it.

i just wanted to add that i agree with pitanddobies about not wanting to hear the racial remarks.the color of someones skin or their race doesnt have anything to do with what kind of person they are. there is good and bad in ALL races

-- Edited by dusty082155 at 22:56, 2005-06-16

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

I will not take back what I said I meant every word of it. This is not the first time you said it and it is not the first time I have gotten upset. I have asked you nicely before now I am done being nice. You think it is ok to justify your remarks because your a father and it's a touchy subject? It is a touchy subject for all of us ESPECIALLY those of us who are survivors! But the other comments were barbaric and appauling and your trying to justify them makes me ill.

oasis05 · Moderator

Well as usual, i have missed something....lol I must have missed the accused racist remarks.

T.....i am probebly the least racist person anyone would ever meet but i do agree this boarder hopping stuff needs to stop. They are dangerous, they are ruining the land and since i am pretty sure they are around my area, i see the damage daily. It has nothing to do with race but everything to do with coming across the boarder without doing it the legal way. I DO NOT envy you your border protrol job......lol My culture (Native American) deals a lot with racisim and have suffered greatly for so long so i know how it can affect people.

As for the MJ situation, i agree with Pits that this is a very touchy subject for those of us who have been there. If he is innocent then i feel bad for what he was accused but it just seems too sticky for me and celeberties seem to get away with anything because they can afford to. I can't imagine what the parents were thinking by letting their kids go there. I am over protective with my son and watch him like a hawk.....lol We have also had long discussions about what is ok and what is not. If he did, i cannot put it past my mind to know what those kids will go through for the rest of their lives. It's a daily struggle and no one can give that innocense back to those children. I totally understand T's feelings on protecting his kids because i would go nuts if my son was ever abused.

I have no idea what was said that offended people but all i can hope it that we all remember that opinions are our own and that is it soooo hard to read feeling on the computer. If i offended any one, i am sorry but this was just MY opinion.

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

as for Tnt's feelings on protecting his kids lol well I doubt they wil be invited to neverland any time soon. But people are falsly accused of crimes every single day. It is no secret that our judicial system is not working right. Innocent people get convicted and the guilty go free. OK I am so not gonna jump on this soap box today but you get the general idea. No one knows for sure if he did or did not do it. All we do know is that he was accused and some of us have formed opinions on it. I don't know if he did it or not I only know there was not enough evidence to convict him. I truly believe he is way out there and has issues but that is based on my view of normal. Who's to say his view of normal is the same? Point being we are all allowed to be different if we want to and none of us has to allow our child to go anyplace we don't want them to. Kinda pisses me off the fact he was accused once before and these idiots allowed their kids to go anyway. Seems that they have no one to blame for this mess but themselves. Again my kids go no where without me if i have anything to say about it but then again if one of my kids told me that they had been bothered I would definatly end up in prison and not lose a moments sleep over the decision.

Troubled in Tombstone · Puppy Post'er (I'm gonna be one BAD dog someday!)

Pits,

I am going to cut and paste one paragraph from my last post just for your benefit. You obviously are a little slow and don't do what you have preached to me, READ!!!!

"For anyone (Pits) to refer to me as a racist goes way beyond the scope of reality and the truth. Anyone that knows me knows that I am not a racist. One week out of the summer I open up the B&B to underpriveleged kids who want to experience life on a ranch. I personally buy them cowboy hats and boots and we let them be part of a reenactment ceremony in Tombstone. We give them stage coach rides, train rides, ride horses and we let them stay with their parents for 4 days and 3 nights at the B&B bunkhouse for free! And you know what Pits, most of them are poor Mexican families or native American indian families who can't afford squat for their kids. So take back your offensive racist comment, and don't ever write that about me again. There are things that I say that offends you well touche lady!"

I think that it is obvious here that you just don't understand me, that would make you label me a racist, and the fact that you won't take it back, that is fine. I have no problem apologizing in a post or in person and have done it in the past, done it recently and will surely do it again. If you don't like what I write, there is a simple solution don't read my posts. I will never direct one to you again, write one about you or comment on any of your topics. Not because I am mad or don't like you, that has nothing to do with it, you just don't get it and I don't deal well with incompetance.

Never in my life has anyone ever called me a racist until you did, 50 years into this wonderful life I have been privelaged to have. Remember this, I volunteer in lots of ways to help make this country a safer place to live in. I spent over 20 years in law enforcement and now I lead a much less stressful lifestyle but because of my past I was asked to help at the border at night. I can't help what the nationality of those border jumpers that threaten our lives every day is but when you are faced with that threat in the middle of the night with homemade weapons ready to take your last breath...,does it really matter what color anyone's skin is????

It doesn't take a rocket scientist (Pits) to know what nationality of people are coming across the Arizona border now does it, it is a little far to be Cubans, Australians or the Dutch. I have many friends that are Mexican or half Mexican as you stated earlier and you know what....they all came into this country legally and gained their citizenship the old fashioned way, they earned it.

T in T out

Pitsanddobes · Post-a-Holic - Give this person a rabies shot!

"I can't help what the nationality of those border jumpers that threaten our lives every day is but when you are faced with that threat in the middle of the night with homemade weapons ready to take your last breath...,does it really matter what color anyone's skin is????"

Nope no one can help it and no it should not matter but that fact is you said so yourself everyone knows what nationality/race of people they are so WHY must you go out of your way to emphasize that point.

Your comment about incompitance was also rude pal I am far from incompitant. A bad speller maybe but NOT incompitant! I don't have a problem with your job just your attitude.