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1200+ Animals brought into Metro Nashville Animal Control in May alone. 360+ already in June......


So whats life like in your neck of the woods?  Here?  The pet stores are full, the newspapers have hundreds of ads and this goes on every day that people are out buying them......


Over 1500 animals in 6 weeks.......in Metro Nashville ALONE......at ONE shelter.  How did we let this problem get so bad?  I firmly believe some sort of legislation needs to be put on breeders.  I know alot of people don't agree with this, but after reading this it is evident that the people themselves cannot and will not control this situation.  Breeders should be licensed and require all dogs and cats that are not show quality to be spayed/neutered before selling them to anyone.


There is just no excuse for what is happening with these animals.  This is an average of 36 animals per day! Over one animal every hour!


Shelters are not the answer here.  Breeder responsibility is.  Every litter is going to have non-show quality dogs/cats in it.  Those could be sold as pet quality and s/n before leaving the breeder.  This would drastically reduce this problem. 


I know we have soem breeders here, and I'd like to hear your input on this, even if it differs with mine.  This upsets me a great deal and would like to hear another side of the issue because legislation is the only solution I can see.  People have proven that they aren't going to do it on their own.


 


Animal Shelter Facing Record Overcrowding
Posted: 6/9/2005 7:30:00 AM
Updated: 6/9/2005 8:48:23 AM

Animal Shelter Facing Record Overcrowding

In May of this year alone, more than 1,200 animals were brought into Metro Nashville Animal Control, and there have already been 360 animals so far in June.


With so many dogs and cats, animal control officers said the shelter is running out of room.

“We're wall to wall animals. We're moving dogs from impound to adoption as fast as we can, but there's no way to keep up with them,” Billy Biggs of Metro Animal Control said Wednesday.

Biggs said animal cruelty cases were adding to the overcrowding problem.

Most animals are put down after three days, but animals involved in cruelty cases have to stay until the case is resolved.

The shelter has 11 Pit Bulls that have been there for almost eight months, waiting for their case to go to trial.


 


 


http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/11898.asp?q=animal+shelter



-- Edited by Ansy at 03:44, 2005-06-16

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Yah, just in LA county, they kill 14,000. every year.
Now it costs $100. a year to license a dog here. Maybe you all need to start ponying up some big bucks out there...
Here, it is not the "breeders" as you put it, for the most part. It is people that have mongrels that breed to show their kids what puppies look like being born, and around here gangsters are breeding dogs for fighting. The overwhelming predominance of the dogs in LA shelters[oh, they call anything yellow or black, a Lab mix, hoping to get it adopted, who can blame them]are pits, rotts, chows and germans, dals and chihuahuas...ie:dogs likely to bite kids, and the parents won't get them as family pets. Whenever I have gone to the local shelter, looking at kennels, I see mostly pits, and an assortment of creatures that I could not put a name to. There are plenty of Labs available in rescue. I cannot say if they have expensive health problems, or what, Labs are prone to about 70 different genetic ailments...I am willing to bet that the healthy, young dogs are snapped up pretty fast, as I have never seen them available. I refer any calls that I get that are not serious buyers, getting exactly what they want, to the rescue that our dog club supports.
Any dog picked up as a pup is likely abandoned as soon as it outgrows the "cute stage" at about 6 months.
Now, if you are talking about what I breed, Labrador show dogs, I sell them to people that have owned a Lab before[better have died of old age] and they are $850. cash, to these screened buyers. Most of us have provisions to get the dogs back. We do not confer full registration to the buyer, except after the dog has been genetically tested free of defects at 2 yrs. of age[some club members only sell you 1/2 ownership of the dog, to boot].
In 25 years, only once have I reversed a registration. The people have a champion dog they want to breed to and the dam is eye, hip, elbow and heart cleared[ I checked the AKC database and released the full reg. to them]. Therefore, in those 25 years, other than this one case, NO AKC pups have been produced from dogs sold by me...
As to all the mutts and pits in the pounds, you may look to your own yards for the origin of those. Although there are more unscrupulous breeders out there than myself, most that I know are scrupled to the point of being anal about it, and they are involved in dog rescue, as well.

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Man that a lot of dogs. I really don't know about our shelter. Thats something I will have to look into.

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OMG!! That's more pets than prolly all the shelters in NW Iowa combined times 5!! YIKES!!! It is just sooo sad!! All those poor doggies and at a high kill shelter, nonetheless. Really p*sses me off!!!

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alot of dogs ! but where are they coming from? a responsible breeder will be be accountable for the pups they place. i think the majority of these dogs are coming from peoples backyards. puppymills and pet shops are horrible. but i dont think they make up the majority of the dogs and cats that end up at these shelters. these are coming from peoples own backyards. people that are allowing unaltered pets to roam free or breeding for all different unacceptable reasons.the new wave of designer dogs is always putting a damper on shelter dogs finding homes.i dont have the answers for a cure. i wish i did .i cant even go in the shelter without breaking down. how do you stop people from breeding anything and everything? something needs to be done and soon.   

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Round here, they decided charging people lots of money would do the trick.
At first I had a problem with that, that I would have to breed dogs to pay for licensing...
But when I saw the old fashioned Door to door "canvassing" of neighborhoods, looking over your fences, knocking on doors to see if a dog barks, and realising that they are catching the people that, UNLIKE ME do not license their dogs, I kinda relaxed. If they are doing proper enforcement, it will be an incentive to alter pets. It is $15. for a sterilized dog, and $100. for an unaltered dog. In the long run, it may work...

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KM, I don't know what the answers are to this problem, but I just wish more breeders were as responsible as you. My take on this, and it may be the wrong way of looking at it, is that if every breeder required s/n of pet quality pups then the BYB's wouldn't have anything to breed because the pet would already be fixed.  I totally agree that the BYB's and petshops are a HUGE contributer to this problem......in fact, I'm sure they are the majority of it, but where are the BYB's getting their breeding dogs from?  Irresponsible breeders.


I could go buy a hundred AKC dogs tomorrow and breed out the ying yang....not knowing a thing about dog breeding.  It is those breeders I am talking about.  How do we put those breeders out of business?  The only thing I can come up with is legislation that if you breed, you must breed show quality dogs and s/n the pet quality pets before they leave your care.  That way a potential BYB doesn't get a hold of a pet quality dog and start breeding, which keeps the cycle going.


The cost of legislation and licensing may outweigh the cost that a quality breeder can get back on their dogs, I don't know....but something has to be done.  Shelters are not the answer here.  They are not getting adopted fast enough, you can buy a purebred for what an adoption fee costs (and many people buy from a BYB just because of that), shelters are getting even more picky about who can adopt.......all of this is causing drastic overcrowding and despite all the wonderful attempts of the volunteers who work at these shelters, the problem seems to be getting worse.


It doesn't help if the shleter adopts out 50 spayed or neutered dogs in a given week and then there are 200 intact dogs sold through the newspaper in that same week.  If these BYB's were stopped, then you could see the shelters making a difference, but the shelters are taking in more than they are sending out. 


My curiosity led me to call a the Middle Tennessee Lab Resuce today to see what their numbers were (because I am partial to labs).  Last month they recieved over 300 labs and have a 2 month waiting list before any more can be dropped off.  If people call her and can't drop off their lab, they will take it to Metro Animal Control which gives them 3 days to be adopted before beign PTS.  300 labs is a lot!  That is one breed, one private shelter, in one month.


I have spoken to many people who hate the idea of government intervnetion, but the people as a whole have shown that they cannot  be responsible.  I think the government will step in on its own eventually......and probably already has in some places.....as you mentioned in your area.


I just wish I knew what to do.   Donating money to a shelter is only a temporary fix.  Its not the solution.  Having so many shelters available only makes it easier for people to drop animals off.  People need to take responsibility for their animals......of course Im not saying that shelters are not doing any good.....the dogs need somewhere to go....but it just seems like they make it so easy to just 'drop them'.  You can't fine them for dropping off a dog because then people would then just start leaving them in ditches and alleys (some already do, but it would increase the number left like that if a fine were placed on them).  It just seems like a never ending cycle with no end in sight.


Stiff legislation on breeders is the only answer I see.  Unfortunately, that would include breeders such as yourself who have demonstrated the utmost in care when breeding and homing their dogs because once legislation is in place it affects everyone.


Educating people about s/n, adopting, and BYB's doesn't seem to be making much of an impact.  I agree with Dusty, something needs to be done...and fast.


I just wish I knew how and what it was.



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i think we have a pretty good shelter in tacoma. they have a big adoption rate. i think its because you dont have to be a celebrity or the pope to be able to adopt an animal. and the adoption fees are more than fair for what is included with the pet. here is their site and adoption fees .just click on pet adoptions on the left of page.and then at the bottom of page click for fees. 


http://www.thehumanesociety.org/



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Well, Ansy, you can throw the baby out with the bathwater, or you can admit that the main problem is with people that do not even license their dogs, and do not have purebreds, and do not have registered dogs..
.Oh, do you want to take issue with that small percentage?...Well, WE are paying for the rest of you... Nice if you cut the breast that feeds you, but, THE PROBLEM DOES NOT PAY FOR ITSELF>>>The legal folks, that are ON RECORD[are licensing] are NOT the problerm. WE ARE PAYING FOR THE PROBLEM....but, we will see to it that you all begin to pay your own way....mark my words....

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