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is there such a thing??


Is there such a thing as a dog orthopedist (sp?)?? I was wondering if anyone has ever taken their animal to one if there was one. The reason is because I have noticed over the past couple of weeks that when beeper walks there is a clicking sound. It sounds like someone cracking their nuckles. he doesnt limp or act like he is in pain but he now refuses to jump up on the couch like he used to so I am a little worried. I know my vet could tell me but I just was curious if there are any types of doggie specialists.




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There are specialists, but find out in your area who does Orthopedic Foundation of America [OFA] exams in your area. Call around and see if the doctor can read the xray himself. If you call local Golden Retriever and Labrador breeders, they should be able to tell you who they use. Reputable breeders do not breed w/o OFA certificates, so it is out there. Make sure the vet can do it w/o anesthesia. My childhood vet is president of the OFA, so I have considerable background on this.
With small dogs, the patellas, or knee caps on the back legs are usually the culprit. Ask when you are calling around if the vet can rotate and check the patellas for you. That can be done in a simple office visit, w/no x-ray.
In the meantime find a way to keep the dog from jumping up and down on things and give canned mackerel or salmon[w/bones] as a calcium suppliment. Change him to puppy food, it has more calcium. Feed less if he gets fat.

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Oh yeah, there sure is. They specialize in the whole skeletal of the pet. I took my poodle Sasha. Crackling in the foot is more than likely arthritis. Sasha has that, I only notice it when she is settling down right next to me. I hear pops. I hope its not what my poodle has. Her foot has turned inward. It is starting to happen to her other back foot too. Take a look at the feet and see if there is any caluses anywheres around the pads on its feet. If there are then it could be the same thing. I would start your dog on Glucosamine-chondroitant, with MSM Its helped my girl be able to walk. She walks feeble with her turned in foot, but she walks. I don't allow her to walk on cement anymore either, just grass.

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LOL, we posted at the same exact time, Kitty. I give fish oil, too. I just crakced open a can of salmon with bones, a few days ago. Going to be getting more. They love it.

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I hope your baby isn't getting luxating patella. Chis are notorious for that, among other joint problems

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Thank you everyone for the advice. I was thinking it may be arthritis but like i said he doesnt act like he is in pain. I think I am going to call the vet tomarrow and see if I can get in to see her and have her look at them. Thanks again!

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 what is a 'luxating patella' i have heard the term used many times but have no idea what it is .. can someone shed the light on what it means

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Hope this helps.....
General Patellar Luxation Information



What is Patellar Luxation?



The patella, or kneecap, is part of the stifle joint (knee). In patellar luxation, the kneecap luxates, or pops out of place, either in a medial or lateral position.


Bilateral involvement is most common, but unilateral is not uncommon. Animals can be affected by the time they are 8 weeks of age. The most notable finding is a knock-knee (genu valgum) stance. The patella is usually reducible, and laxity of the medial collateral ligament may be evident. The medial retinacular tissues of the stifle joint are often thickened, and the foot can be seen to twist laterally as weight is placed on the limb.


Patellar Luxation Categories


Patellar luxations fall into several categories:

  1. Medial luxation; toy, miniature, and large breeds


  2. Lateral luxation; toy and miniature breeds


  3. Lateral luxation; large and giant breeds.


  4. Luxation resulting from trauma; various breeds, of no importance to the certification process.

Numbers 1, 2 and 3 are either known to be heritable or strongly suspected.



Medial Luxation in Toy, Miniature, and Large Breeds


Although the luxation may not be present at birth, the anatomical deformities that cause these luxations are present at that time and are responsible for subsequent recurrent patellar luxation. Patellar luxation should be considered an inherited disease.

Clinical Signs
Three classes of patients are identifiable:



  1. Neonates and older puppies often show clinical signs of abnormal hind-leg carriage and function from the time they start walking; these present grades 3 and 4 generally.


  2. Young to mature animals with grade 2 to 3 luxations usually have exhibited abnormal or intermittently abnormal gaits all their lives but are presented when the problem symptomatically worsens.


  3. Older animals with grade 1 and 2 luxations may exhibit sudden signs of lameness because of further breakdown of soft tissues as result of minor trauma or because of worsening of degenerative joint disease pain.

Signs vary dramatically with the degree of luxation. In grades 1 and 2, lameness is evident only when the patella is in the luxated position. The leg is carried with the stifle joint flexed but may be touched to the ground every third or fourth step at fast gaits. Grade 3 and 4 animals exhibit a crouching, bowlegged stance (genu varum) with the feet turned inward and with most of the weight transferred to the front legs.


Permanent luxation renders the quadriceps ineffective in extending the stifle. Extension of the stifle will allow reduction of the luxation in grades 1 and 2. Pain is present in some cases, especially when chondromalacia of the patella and femoral condyle is present. Most animals; however, seem to show little irritation upon palpation.


Lateral Luxation in Toy and Miniature Breeds



Lateral luxation in small breeds is most often seen late in the animal's life, from 5 to 8 years of age. The heritability is unknown. Skeletal abnormalities are relatively minor in this syndrome, which seems to represent a breakdown in soft tissue in response to, as yet, obscure skeletal derangement. Thus, most lateral luxations are grades 1 and 2, and the bony changes are similar, but opposite, to those described for medial luxation. The dog has more functional disability with lateral luxation than with medial luxation.


Clinical Signs
In mature animals, signs may develop rapidly and may be associated with minor trauma or strenuous activity. A knock-knee or genu valgum stance, sometimes described as seal-like, is characteristic.


Sudden bilateral luxation may render the animal unable to stand and so simulate neurological disease. Physical examination is as described for medial luxation.


Lateral Luxation in Large and Giant Breeds



Also called genu valgum, this condition is usually seen in the large and giant breeds. A genetic pattern has been noted, with Great Danes, St. Bernards, and Irish Wolfhounds being the most commonly affected. Components of hip dysplasia, such as coxa valga (increased angle of inclination of the femoral neck) and increased anteversion of the femoral neck, are related to lateral patellar luxation. These deformities cause internal rotation of the femur with lateral torsion and valgus deformity of the distal femur, which displaces the quadriceps mechanism and patella laterally.


Clinical Signs
Bilateral involvement is most common. Animals appear to be affected by the time they are 5 to 6 months of age. The most notable finding is a knock-knee (genu valgum) stance. The patella is usually reducible, and laxity of the medial collateral ligament may be evident. The medial retinacular tissues of the stifle joint are often thickened, and the foot can often be seen to twist laterally as weight is placed on the limb.




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