Wow i didnt know a lab could be able to jump a 8 foot fence ..that must be the only reason why they said you had to have one.. and i dont think i ever see an 8ft fence lol..Harvey couldnt even jump that

I find also PD that many rescue places are causing there own problems ( regarding the ones in my area) ..I understand that they have to have standards to prevent the dogs from going to a home which is awfull and with some psycho but there are some very loving people out there who would care and love of the shelters animals and give them a quality of life better than being stuck in some shelter but are turned down as they do not meet some small requirement. I enquired about getting a cat. we live in a beautifull area where the cat ( once settled and knew where home is) could really enjoy itself, we can look after the cat financially and to cut a long story short they wouldnt let us have it because we had Harvey and in this womans words " because he is a doberman and they are prone to not like small animals etc etc" ..well this woman knows nothing..yes there are some dogs out there that do not like small animals but harvey absolutely loves them and often plays with my mums cats ..she wouldnt except that though and flatly refused me ..well that cats probably still stuck there

I think that guy has a screw loose. And I also think he needs to come here and say what he said.

I know here it is pretty easy to adopt a dog if you don't have a toddler.

Hi Ansy... I agree with you 100%, this guy sounds like a collector of pets & $$$.  I read this guys post over on TP.  I love how they have to mention how they BUST their butts.  My opinion is that if you have to go around telling people that... it's a red flag. 

How sad is it that Elvis is still there???  My god - over 3 years.  What is he, the shelter mascot?  The good news is the guy says he's getting out of the business. 

I know their are some good shelters out there that should be commended.  I'm put off by someone tooting their own horn about how hard they bust their hump and how under appreicated they are. 

And the latest battle..............

people who have nothing better to do but ditch the rescue
in reference to elvis



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i am so glad im getting out of this business - no matter how hard you work or the life you give up for these animals - and the efforts you go through to save them not to mention expenses - and all you people can do is put down my rescue and other rescues who bust their butts to save animals - you blame us cause we take in so many - you blame us cause we dont give them to people who dont qualify - well we wouldnt have so many if the people would quit looking at the easy way out and dump them on us and if we dont take them then they are taking them to the pound - they should of never gotten them in the first place - people can be so cruel to animals - and if you think because i keep an animal along time that this is cruel - think again - there has been over $70,000 dollars spent on this rescue in the last 3 years - taking an old delapatated building and rebuilding the whole building - putting in over 600 feet of 8 ft privacy fence - building (7) 12 x 16 ft kennels that 2 dogs share plus 7 more under construction, they also get out to run in a 80 x 80 ft back yard with grass and trees - they get to socialize - play and run - i have even adopted dogs out that ended up coming back cause the dog didnt adapt into the new home - the dog would become shy and not willing to play - so the adoptive parents would bring them back thinking something is wrong with the dog - i take it back and within 3 minutes the dog is playing and running and happy again - i guess my place cant be that bad - i also receive about 2000 pounds of dog food a week from donators and i use around 700 pounds and donate what i have left to other rescues and people on fixed incomes - i dont see any of you people telling the room that you ever tried to get into the rescue business - its a tuff life - its taken up 8 years of my life - and im just so tired of dealing with people who have nothing better to do than put down people who do the job and save the animals - i dont give a rats a_s what this lady is saying - at the time when i went out there - her fence was almost falling down in some areas - i could slide my foot under the fence with no problem - and i know elvis and the way he likes to escape - you bad mouth me cause i didnt give her elvis - you should be happy i didnt give her elvis - she didn't tell you that i briefly spoke with her son when they were here and i asked him if they had dogs in the past - he said yes and i asked him what happend to their last dog and he said it got run over - and your pissed at me cause i didnt give her elvis - she may have a good home now and a fenced in yard - but she didnt then - so until you walk in my shoes, and pick up, mop up and clean up after as many dogs as i have - shut the hell up - i dont give up my life to save these animals and spend all this money to give them to people who cant live by simple rules for adoption - there is so many animals out there right now whos owners dont even give them the time of day - i couldnt tell you how many dogs were tied up to a pole and left to fin for themselves as the owners moved away -- u people dont seem to realize - what we go through in the rescue business - and for those of you who think or claim im a horder - you are so wrong from the truth - i wish i didnt have any dogs - i wish people would take care of their dogs - i wish there didnt have to be rescues and animal controls - but the fact is there are bad people out there - people who got a puppy from someone who was standing in the parking lot at wal-mart and once the puppy grew up and wasnt as pretty or diddled in the house - the dog then spends the rest of its live outside tied to a tree cause the owner doesnt have a fence or yard for the dog to run in - i have a saying on our business cards - "if you hear animal abuse - call someone - animals count on us to help them - not desert them" - in closing i want to say i will never post here again - its seems all you people have nothing better to do than put rescues down - why not start a new group about rescues that took a dog in from a pit bull ring and was used a bait and almost dead - that the rescue or should we say the individual who runs the rescue spends over $700 to save this dog through emergncy surgery and putting all its insides back together and then treating him for 3months till his wounds healed - giving him medication - exercising him - and once healed - adopt him out to a home who will love him for the rest of his life - this is a true story - his name was harley - and he is alive and well at his home - he could of just as easily been left for dead in a trash can - but a rescue stepped up to the plate and pulled out his own money to save him - i dont think one of you here would of done that - so quit putting down the person and their rescues - we do what you wont do... but **** about the person or resuce who does...

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i want to thank you for taking the time to come here and post your side of the story. unfortunately the person you had this conflict with is banned from this forum. if you google the word furum you may be able to find her discussion forum and you can take it up with her there.

kudos to you for doing what you do for these animals. there should be more people out there like you =)

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actually you may want to google her furum. she copied and pasted your post from this morning on her forum and has a lengthy reply to you over there.

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thankyou for responding to my story - but im new here - and wouldnt of found out about this lady talking bad about me and rescues if someone didnt tell me about it - how do i get to her furum and see what she wrote - and you said she is banned form this forum - may i ask why?
i went to google furum - there was 3130 furums - which one is hers without me going through each one - thanks if you can help -

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*edited out the link to the forum. hope you saw it already. if not let me know again*

if you dont mind me asking......who told you about this thread ? it was posted a year ago. just wondering why someone didnt mention it back then.

***Edited By: scout1 on 8/8/2005 11:58:26 PM***
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dang - after going to her furum - this lady really hates me - she sounds like a crazed x mailman who just got fired - lock up the guns - i am so glad i never gave her elvis.

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I am thankful that there are people who use their time and their means to rescue. For the sake of discussion, though, and I don't necessarily refer to only your rescue or only the case that was mentioned.. I have seen people who have owned and loved and cared for a dog for many years until it died of old age that were heartbroken over the loss and fell in love with a dog at a rescue, only to be turned down for a very broad reason, such as no fence or there's a 5 year old in the house. Now I could see the 5 year old thing if the dog they are interested would be inappropriate for a 5 year old to be around, or the fence if it is a breed of dog that has a need for more than average exercise and a family that is not going to be able to provide that. It is just sad when one sits at a rescue while a perfectly capable owner who would provide a wonderful life is turned away.

Is it because there is just not enough help at many rescues, not enough people available to take things on a more case-by-case basis? If a family qualifies in all ways except the fence, and they get a brand new fence with cement runners, would most rescues return their calls and come check out the new fence, or is it kind of a one-time thing, either you qualify or you don't, with no second chances? I know many small rescues use their own money, facilities, and time, so maybe they don't like to go to the same place twice? I don't mean in a case where a family was deemed inappropriate like you got the idea they were wanting to breed it, or they already had 12 dogs, or had previously dropped dogs off at the shelter for ridiculous reasons, but when it is something fixable like a fence.


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while i think you would probably be very happy here as many of us are very pro rescue/adoptions, i cannot allow conversation on this particular situation about elvis and ansy1 to continue. she is no longer a member here therefore cannot comment on anything you have to say about her and elvis' adoption.

anything else you would like to share with us would be appreciated and welcomed.

thanks for your understanding.

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"Thank Ya!!. I want to thank ya very much!!!!" Trying my Elvis circa 1976 Vegas schtick and it ain't translating well...sorry for taking up space....:(.

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hmmm, interesting.

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BTW, the reason I am posting this here is because it doesn't fit the profile of normal "TP issues", rather, its a subject which I can't defend myself against over there.  If you read all of it, you will see that he does admit that someone emailed him and told hime about that post.  Why?  Because they still can't let things go over there?  They have to resort to bringing up things a year old?  Sad.  But this isn't about them and how they can't get over me, its about me and a shelter owner.

He now says that he spoke to my son and that my son told him that we had a dog to get run over.  We have never had a dog get run over.  To prove he is lieing, in his original post he says that he met with "me".  Now he's saying that he talked to my son.  The fact is, my whole family went to see how well everyone interacted with Elvis.  This is the first mention I have seen about a dog getting run over and I see it as an attempt for him to justify what he is doing.

What I've said all along is that if we weren't suitable - fine.  But he never took the time to come back or call after we had everything fixed.  I think the first time he did come out, he just drove by.  I was home that week and we scheduled an early morning interview.  No one ever knocked and I never seen anyone in the yard.  If he just drove by, of course he would have seen the gates open.......but had he have actually came up and met with me, he would have seen the backyard was fenced separately.  He didn't.  That also explains why we never could find a hole in the back fence.....but replaced it anyway so that we could try and get Elvis.  He never saw the back fence either.

Cody, all I want to know is why you never came back after we fixed everything you said was wrong?  You totally ignored me in my many attempts to contact you.  The sad part is that.....we may not have been the perfect family for Elvis....but we'll never know now will we?  You never came back and gave him a second chance for a home.

And this comment.......

dang - after going to her furum - this lady really hates me - she sounds like a crazed x mailman who just got fired - lock up the guns - i am so glad i never gave her elvis.

I know where that kind of talk comes from.  You have been bombarded with information from people who can't stand me.  I'm not stupid.  Why do you think they emailed you in the first place - 9 months after that post was even made?? Someone has alot of time on their hands.....but I'm glad.  At least it shows that I was telling the truth - that Elvis has been there for almost 3 years now.  What about Big Blue, Corky, and Tigger?  Are they all still permanent residents as well?

Thats is absolutely ridiculous..why cant people just let stuff like this be forgotten..where the hell is this guy.. he obviously got the link from scout so i would have thought he would have been here by now

Quote scout "actually you may want to google her furum. she copied and pasted your post from this morning on her forum and has a lengthy reply to you over there." looks like scout drops by alot to notice the threads here

I wonder who told him about the thread also?

They are obviously out to cause trouble..why else would someone take the trouble to drag up a thread that must have been right at the bottom of the pile?

Shiny does make a very good point..im just too mad to say much else